Subject: RE: About the article From: "Didier PH Martin" <martind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 18:59:06 -0400 |
Hi Adam, <Comment> According to the SGML/XML Kit web pages, it also requires the non-free Talva document explorer. So even if you do manage to replace the MSIE dependancy with Mozilla (or either), you still have that dependancy to contend with. </Comment> <reply> Adam, don't jump on conclusions like that. the former do not implies the latter :-) OK let's talk in clear english. On the Win32 platform, the SGML/XML kit version not not _necessarily_ the document explorer but it works a lot better with. I mean here, it is evenmore useful with it. There is a certain restriction on it. the version 1 just work with local files and do not work with remote file through protocols like HTTP. The next version 2.0 solve this limitation by adding HTTP protocol support. On Mozilla, because the architecture of this browser is totally different, the XSL and DSSSL angines won't be packaged the same way. They'll be XPCOM modules and for version 1.0 as netlib MIME filters. For version 2, we target to have a one pass transformation. This means that version 1 transform the SGML or XML document into HTML then this latter format is parsed and displayed. In version 2, the engines will directly interface with the DOM and then we'll have removed a processing step. So, for Mozilla, there won't even be a document explore module and therefore no dependencies with this latter. </reply> <Comment> Now, just to clarify my intentions: I do not wish to insult Didier, and I'm afaid my first mention of this was rather insulting (I must have been grumpy). For this I apologize. While I do not follow RMS in saying all software must be free (I think some great software would never have existed if so), I do believe that the success of XML/SGML/DSSSL/XSL etc *do* depend on quality, free implementations. I also *guess* that Didier's work is useful, especially for making the SGML workflow and toolchain easier to use for users. (I don't know because I haven't run it). Therefore, I wish I could use Didier's work on my main SGML platform (Debian GNU/Linux). At any rate, I hope this exchange has been instructive and informative, and not just inflammatory. </Comment> <reply> Its OK Adam, its forgotten :-) The XSL and DSSSL modules for mozilla will be available on Linux if we do find some people to help to compile and test a) Mozilla, b) transformation engines modules included in mozilla. But it won'T be too fast, we have so much to do to stabilize the beast. Also, I have to synchronize with MITRE people for the modules integration. But, unfortunatly, we have to make a living, so several tools will be only on win32, no with source code, and fully integrated into the shell. You know, like others we have to pay the rent and feed our family :-) But Mozilla will be open source (and so it will be for the transformation engines modules). </reply> regards Didier PH Martin mailto:martind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.netfolder.com DSSSList info and archive: http://www.mulberrytech.com/dsssl/dssslist
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