RE: (dsssl) DSSSL Documentation Project

["Mason, James David (MXM) " <mxm@xxxxxxxx>]

We've always recommended that people buy Goldfarb's book rather than the ISO
publication. The price is lower because OUP got a volume discount. (Both the
book and the standard itself are available at a discount to members of the
SGML/XML Users' Group, http://www.isgmlug.org/.)

There is no provision for decertifying an ISO standard and releasing their
copyright. Just be glad we have a second unofficial source
(http://www.y12.doe.gov/sgml/sc34/sc34oldhome.htm#standards). 

As for moving it to the W3C, no way: they don't want it because they derived
XSL from it, and that's all they want. Furthermore, their credibility as a
"standards"-developing organization is declining rapidly, as evidenced by
James Clark's attacks on them in the keynote at XML 2001 and his move of his
standards activities to OASIS and back to ISO.

Jim Mason

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Trent Shipley [SMTP:tcshipley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent:	Sunday, January 27, 2002 3:27 PM
> To:	dssslist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject:	Re: (dsssl) DSSSL Documentation Project
> 
> I know there are issues with publishing ISO standards gratis.  However, 
> Goldfarb's book annotating the SGML standard sells for much less than the 
> standard itself.  
> 
> This implies price flexibility when it  comes to value added products.
> 
> What is the level of feasibility for hyperlinking the handbook to the 
> standard (and the on-line standard to the handbook) so that we get an 
> annotated standard at no additional cost in labor?
> 
> ---
> 
> (Would it be desirable to de-certify DSSSL as an ISO standard and either
> move 
> it to W3C or make it a stand-alone ad-hoc standard?)
> 
> On Sunday 27 January 2002 12:42, you wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I would like to take some first steps toward reviving the DSSSL
> > documentation project.  I propose to:
> >
> >     1. Upgrade all source documents to DocBook 4.1.
> >     2. Consolidate the existing pieces into one document so that
> appearance
> > and navigation is consistent throughout.  I will follow the proposed
> > outline for the DSSSL Handbook.
> >     3. Merge material from Flow Object Class Reference with that of Flow
> > Object Gallery; also combine Procedure Library and Cookbook.
> >
> > What I want to produce at this stage is a fully navigable DSSSL Handbook
> > that incorporates all the current material plus any contributions that
> come
> > in along the way.  (Brandon, how about your TL tutorial?)  There will
> still
> > be a lot of blank pages.
> >
> > As for where the documentation lives, I wouldn't like to see it bundled
> too
> > closely with openjade.  If Mulberry can keep it that's fine, or if
> someone
> > acquires a dsssl domain name that would be best.
> >
> > Later,
> > --Paul
> >
> > Paul Tyson, Principal Consultant                   Precision Documents
> > paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx              http://precisiondocuments.com
> >      "The art and science of document engineering."
> >
> >
> >
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