Subject: RE: [jats-list] "Self citation" markup (NLM Archiving v3). From: "O'BEIRNE, Richard" <Richard.OBEIRNE@xxxxxxx> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 14:15:26 +0100 |
And different journals will have different citation styles (which I've always found bizarre...), so displaying a hard-coded citation won't always solve the problem. I would think the majority of authors will be using reference management software to build their references. Richard -----Original Message----- From: Evan Owens [mailto:eowens@xxxxxxx] Sent: 13 July 2012 13:47 To: jats-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [jats-list] "Self citation" markup (NLM Archiving v3). Hi Simon, Interesting problem. A few random observations: There are attributes on given-names and surname to capture initials. We at AIP use <related-article related-article-type="translation source"> to capture the information about where the original article appeared. We published some translation journals in the past where this was important metadata. Does this self-citation needed to be fielded (bibliographic elements marked up) or could it just be a formatted string? If the latter, then perhaps you could put it as a block into a single <custom-meta> <meta-value>. Or you could use custom-meta for any single piece that there is no place for elsewhere in article-meta. Evan Owens American Institute of Physics eowens@xxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: Newton, Simon - Edinburgh [mailto:snewton@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 5:57 AM To: jats-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [jats-list] "Self citation" markup (NLM Archiving v3). Hi Jeff, Yes, reconstruction of a self-citation from metadata is acceptable in the majority of journals, but some require a form that cannot be generated reliably that way. For example we may be obliged to enter creators' full names into the metadata, but also to publish a self-citation in which forenames are reduced to initials (and it's quite hard automatically to do that reliably); or the self-citation needs to contain an extra piece of text that details where the original language version of the article was published, and this is not elsewhere in the XML. There is also the issue where even if we produce a selection of styles to build it automatically, some journals will always want something different, and short of producing a rendering script tailored for every one of our many journals this seemed to be the best way round that. The trade-off is indeed a form of duplication. Many thanks - Simon. -----Original Message----- Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 13:58:28 -0400 To: "jats-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <jats-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> From: "Beck, Jeff (NIH/NLM/NCBI) [E]" <beck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [jats-list] "Self citation" markup (NLM Archiving v3). Message-ID: <CC24880F.653BD%beck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Simon, I would just consider this something to be handled by your rendering engine. It should be able to build the citation directly from the <article-meta>, and then you don't have to worry about duplicating that information in each article. Jeff ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------- Blackwell Publishing Limited is a private limited company registered in England with registered number 180277. Registered office address: The Atrium, Southern Gate, Chichester, West Sussex, United Kingdom. PO19 8SQ. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------- Oxford University Press (UK) Disclaimer This message is confidential. You should not copy it or disclose its contents to anyone. You may use and apply the information for the intended purpose only. OUP does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author only and not of OUP. If this email has come to you in error, please delete it, along with any attachments. Please note that OUP may intercept incoming and outgoing email communications.
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