FW: [jats-list] Element for wrapping a group of xref elements

["Beck, Jeff (NIH/NLM/NCBI) [E]" <beck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Alf,

PMC can handle multiple values in xref/@rid. We do have issues generating
the display if the xref is empty (but we have that for single values,
too), and of course the links are problematic.

<xref ref-type="fig" rid="d349665qxx"/> or <xref ref-type="fig"
rid="d349665qxx d34888324qqq"/> are both tough to figure out what to do
with.

<xref ref-type="fig" rid="d349665qxx d34888324qqq">Figs. 1 &amp; 2</xref>
is not a problem unless you want "1" to link one place and "2" to link to
another - which is generally what users expect.

I'd prefer

Figs. <xref ref-type="fig" rid="d349665qxx">1</xref> &amp; <xref
ref-type="fig" rid="d34888324qqq">2</xref>

Or even

<xref ref-type="fig" rid="d349665qxx">Figs. 1</xref><xref ref-type="fig"
rid="d34888324qqq">&amp; 2</xref>


Remember, the PMC Tagging Guidelines are just that - guidelines. PMC
requires content that is well-formed, is valid to the schema it claims to
follow, and represents the article(s) and publication model of the journal
accurately.

Questions on PMC can be addressed to pmc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Jeff





On 1/8/13 5:40 PM, "Alf Eaton" <eaton.alf@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>Jeff, would you be able to comment on whether this actually is a
>restriction of PubMed Central? It seems like it would be nice to mark
>up a collection of references as one element, but I guess it's
>forbidden by PubMed Central because the HTML display can't handle it?
>
>I could work around the restriction by adding another element around
>the whole group of references, perhaps, though I'm not sure what
>element that would be.
>
>Alf
>
>
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>From: Alexander Schwarzman <aschwarzman@xxxxxxxxx>
>Date: 5 December 2012 18:57
>Subject: Re: [jats-list] Element for wrapping a group of xref elements
>To: jats-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>I think one has to consider whether the articles are going to be
>submitted to PubMedCentral.
>
>PMC Guidelines
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/pmcdoc/tagging-guidelines/article/tags.htm
>l#el-xref
>admonish:
>
>Do not tag multiple id values in @rid.
>
>--Sasha
>
>On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Bruce Rosenblum <bruce@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Alf,
>>
>> You can tag in all versions of NLM or in JATS as:
>>
>>         "induce co-stimulatory molecule elevation<xref rid="r14 r15
>>r18">14,
>> 15, 18</xref>"
>>
>> This works fine for references, and you can also do the same with
>>tables or
>> figures, as in:
>>
>>         <xref rid="t1 t2 t3 t4">Tables 1-4</xref>
>>
>> but beware that this may create a usability problem for the reader
>>because
>> there's no "point" on which you can click to go to table 2 or table 3.
>>This
>> is less of a problem with references since they are all in the same
>> proximity.
>>
>> In both cases, the key behind this is that the DTD declares rid to be
>> IDREFS, not simply IDREF.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> At 08:26 AM 12/5/2012, Alf Eaton wrote:
>>>
>>> Is there an element in the JATS DTD that is suitable for denoting a
>>> collection of xref elements in the body of an article?
>>>
>>> For example, in various citation styles:
>>>
>>> "induce co-stimulatory molecule
>>>
>>>
>>>elevation<xref-group><xref>14</xref>,<xref>15</xref>,<xref>18</xref></xr
>>>ef-group>."
>>>
>>> "induce co-stimulatory molecules elevation
>>> <xref-group>(<xref>Gagliardi 2000</xref>; <xref>Berin
>>> 2008</xref>)</xref-group>."
>>>
>>> "induce co-stimulatory molecule
>>> elevation<xref-group>[<xref>14</xref>-<xref>16</xref>]</xref-group>."
>>>
>>> If the citations were marked up in this way, then it would be possible
>>> for the renderer to choose which style
>>> (numeric/superscript/parenthetical) to use when rendering them.
>>>
>>> For example, <xref-group><xref rid="ref-14">14</xref><xref
>>> rid="ref-15">15</xref><xref rid="ref-16">16</xref></xref-group> could
>>> be turned into a comma-separated list of numbers, a hyphenated pair of
>>> numbers, or a semi-colon-separated list of author/year pairs, with the
>>> appropriate punctuation.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alf
>>
>>
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