Re: [jats-list] citation "year" with suffix

Subject: Re: [jats-list] citation "year" with suffix
From: Kaveh Bazargan <kaveh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 00:48:35 +0530
With all respect to my friend Bruce, I would use mixed-citation as a
last resort, and go for the most structured coding possible. I think
Alf's original suggestion is pretty good.

On 25 February 2013 22:13, Bruce Rosenblum <bruce@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Alf,
> element-citation can work well for journal references (and in this case you
> could put the letter in a comment element), but for non-journal references
> element-citation can work you into some very bad corners. My JATS-con 2011
> talk was about this (you might want to look at the video). So it may be
> prudent to look at the non-journal references you have and see if you can
> handle them without exception using element-citation. If not, I'd move to
> mixed-citation.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> At 11:27 AM 2/25/2013, Alf Eaton wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Jeff, that's good to know. If we were using mixed-citation (as
>> Bruce suggested), then leaving the suffix outside of <year> would make
>> sense, but as we're trying to use element-citation for everything,
>> using @iso-8601-date does seem like an appropriate solution.
>>
>> Alf
>>
>> On 25 February 2013 15:56, Beck, Jeff (NIH/NLM/NCBI) [E]
>> <beck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Hi Alf,
>> >
>> > This looks like appropriate markup for the citation to me. The
>> > @iso-8601-date attribute was intended across the elements it's used on
>> > to
>> > be a processable date format. It is certainly most useful on the
>> > date-level elements, but this is a great example of why it is needed on
>> > <year>.
>> >
>> > Whether your processors use the attribute or just strip the non-numeric
>> > characters from <year> to do any citation lookups (like everyone has had
>> > to do until this attribute was added) will be up to you.
>> >
>> > Jeff
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2/25/13 10:28 AM, "Alf Eaton" <eaton.alf@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >>When marking up reference lists that use "Author, Year" format for
>> >>inline citations - so the year has an alphanumeric suffix if more than
>> >>one cited article has the same author surname and year - would this be
>> >>appropriate markup for the citation?:
>> >>
>> >>====
>> >><ref id="ref-2">
>> >>    <element-citation publication-type="journal">
>> >>        <person-group person-group-type="author">
>> >>            <name>
>> >>                <surname>Wedel</surname>
>> >>                <given-names>MJ</given-names>
>> >>            </name>
>> >>        </person-group>
>> >>        <article-title>What pneumaticity tells us about
>> >>prosauropods</article-title>
>> >>        <volume>1</volume>
>> >>        <year iso-8601-date="2007">2007b</year>
>> >>        <fpage>1</fpage>
>> >>    </element-citation>
>> >></ref>
>> >>====
>> >>
>> >>There are two examples in
>> >>http://jats.nlm.nih.gov/publishing/tag-library/1.0/?elem=year that use
>> >>@iso-8601-date on <year>, but they both just repeat the information in
>> >>the text content; I'm assuming this attribute was intended for cases
>> >>where the text contains something other than the 4-digit year?
>> >>
>> >>Thanks,
>> >>Alf
>
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