Re: [jats-list] Page breaks in books

Subject: Re: [jats-list] Page breaks in books
From: "Alexander Schwarzman aschwarzman@xxxxxxxxx" <jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 22:59:19 -0000
Maybe this usage could become an example in the Tag Library... Right
now, the <target> page in the Tag Library reads, "No sample is
available at this time."

Alexander ('Sasha') Schwarzman, Content Technology Architect
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On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 1:03 PM, Wendell Piez wapiez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Tommie and Debbie,
>
> Yes, 'target' is perfect. Indeed, it serves to represent what those
> page-marker-thingies are actually doing, as opposed to what they might
> supposedly be doing.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Cheers, Wendell
>
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Debbie Lapeyre
> dalapeyre@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>> Wendellb
>>
>> Have you considered the <target> element?
>>
>> bDebbie
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 12, 2016, at 12:03 PM, Wendell Piez wapiez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello JATS friends --
>>>
>>> My question today is about marking page breaks, specifically in BITS.
>>>
>>> As you know, one conventional approach to capturing information
>>> regarding pagination in an original or reference version of a text is
>>> to use empty elements as markers of page breaks, e.g. TEI <pb n="20"/>
>>> to show where page 20 begins or began.
>>>
>>> And this element will sometimes serve as a link target, i.e. <pb
>>> n="20" id="p20"/> can appear, and then a "back of the book index"
>>> which directs the reader to page 20 can point somewhere.
>>>
>>> While this may be a terrible way to do indexing in an electronic
>>> environment, we see this a lot, and sometimes better options are not
>>> available. (Maybe the text was already published long ago, and our
>>> choices are to use this index, or do without.)
>>>
>>> BITS has 'milestone-start' and 'milestone-end' elements, but the Tag
>>> Library suggests that if we are to use milestone-start to indicate
>>> where a page begins, we should also use milestone-end to show where it
>>> ends:
>>>
>>> "When this element is used, it is assumed that the end of the textual
>>> component is marked with a <milestone-end> element."
>>>
>>>
(http://jats.nlm.nih.gov/extensions/bits/tag-library/1.0/index.html?elem=mile
stone-start
>>> )
>>>
>>> So where TEI has <pb id="p20"/>, and HTML may have <a class="pb"
>>> id="p20"/> ... we have a pair of elements:
>>>
>>> <milestone-end content-type="page-end" rid="p19"/><milestone-start
>>> content-type="page-start" id="p20"/>
>>>
>>> because, perforce, page 19 ends where page 20 begins. Note in this
>>> case (due to the semantics of page break markers) the milestone-end
>>> element can never provide information we do not have already. (But it
>>> can contradict or confuse things if something is ever off with the
>>> pairing.)
>>>
>>> Is this really what we should do or is there another option?
>>>
>>> Put another way - am I correct to infer that the Tag Library directly
>>> excludes use of milestone-start in the way the TEI or HTML uses
>>> elements to indicate structures with only boundary markers? If so, am
>>> I missing something else that would make life easier?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Wendell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Wendell Piez | http://www.wendellpiez.com
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>>>
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>
>
> --
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> XML | XSLT | electronic publishing
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