Subject: RE: [xsl] xsl:sort in old MSXML From: "Claudio Russo" <crusso@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 09:52:18 -0300 |
Wendell, Yes, I agree that XSLT fits right for the XML data than any other (language), since looks an extension of the grammatical rules that applies to XML. Also, for sure, there would be application instances where one would like to have certain XSLT instructions inside an XML (eg: security constraints). You mention also before "run on the XML source in batches". What do you mean by that? Claudio. -----Original Message----- From: Wendell Piez [mailto:wapiez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Martes, 01 de Julio de 2003 06:18 p.m. To: xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [xsl] xsl:sort in old MSXML Claudio, Sorry I confused you with my typo. At 03:54 PM 7/1/2003, you wrote: >I don't get the Procedural one. In your msg you've said "write XML at home >and convert it into HTML". I think from this excerpt that you mean that >instructions can be kept and run inside an XML file. I still don't get >how. I only associate the process to de XSL language, providing an HTML output. No, you're correct -- typically the instructions on how to get HTML out of XML will be kept outside the XML. (Although to be complete, it should be mentioned that Architectural Forms-like techniques can be used to bind such "instructions" "within" the XML; in any case you'll still need some kind of external application to do the conversion.) Don't make the mistake of assuming, however, that this architecture requires XSLT. There are many ways (as Jonathan R. has recently reminded us) of converting XML to HTML, such as Perl, Python or whatever. They're just not in scope for this list. :-> >This is why I asked David to let me know where on earth I can find a >conceptual model of the whole architecture. > >It still puzzels me how the data-process-presentation three tiered layout >is kept with all this tools/languages/transformations/schemas. Conceptual architecture: XML --> XSLT engine --> output (HTML, PDF etc.) ^ validation ^ transformation schema stylesheet My only point is that the middle piece doesn't have to happen in a server or a client: it can be standalone and run on the XML source in batches. Another point of confusion is that the middle part doesn't actually have to be XSLT, though XSLT excels at this role (since it was designed for it). Cheers, Wendell ====================================================================== Wendell Piez mailto:wapiez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Mulberry Technologies, Inc. http://www.mulberrytech.com 17 West Jefferson Street Direct Phone: 301/315-9635 Suite 207 Phone: 301/315-9631 Rockville, MD 20850 Fax: 301/315-8285 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mulberry Technologies: A Consultancy Specializing in SGML and XML ====================================================================== XSL-List info and archive: http://www.mulberrytech.com/xsl/xsl-list XSL-List info and archive: http://www.mulberrytech.com/xsl/xsl-list
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