Subject: Re: [xsl] OT (browser standards) From: Mukul Gandhi <mukul_gandhi@xxxxxxxxx> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 20:09:48 -0800 (PST) |
I think, we should stop discussing more about this topic :) Otherwise we might get caught breaking charter of XSL-List.. Regards, Mukul --- Robert Koberg <rob@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Mukul Gandhi wrote: > > I was suggesting this sort of activity only.. This > > page very well puts the need.. > > http://webstandards.org/about/ > > > > But this seems an unofficial body.. Its just like > you > > and me expressing our opinion! > > > you do realize that the w3c is just an opinion, > don't you? > > best, > -Rob > > > > > > In this site, there is a page > > http://webstandards.org/act/bug/ , where we can > report > > bugs to browser vendors.. But that mail would go > to > > Microsoft, Mozilla or Opera.. Its just like, when > I > > get an error on IE, an error page pops up saying > > "report this problem to Microsoft.." . > > > > What we need is, that W3C starts such activity, > and > > sets a similar kind of site... After collecting > > feedbacks fom users, W3C can submit the list to > > vendors.. If they can ensure enforcement, it'll be > > great! But thats not possible, I think, as W3C can > > only recommend standards, but cannot enforce > them.. > > > > Regards, > > Mukul > > > > --- Robert Koberg <rob@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > >>Have you seen: > >> > >>http://webstandards.org/ > >> > >>? > >> > >>best, > >>-Rob > >> > >> > >>Mukul Gandhi wrote: > >> > >>>Hi David, > >>> The new standard errort you are refering > >>>(http://www.whatwg.org/) seems to aim to > >> > >>standardize > >> > >>>new widgets like RTF controls, menus and toolbars > >>>etc.. > >>> > >>>Its a nice effort.. > >>> > >>>But we already have lot of standards like HTTP > >> > >>1.1, > >> > >>>HTML 4, XML 1.0, XSLT 1.0, SSL 3.0 etc.. First, > >>>implementation of these should be uniform acrosss > >>>browsers.. > >>> > >>>I feel, many of the specs implemented are uniform > >>>across major browsers(I would say 65%). Probably, > >> > >>W3C > >> > >>>should make a list of things which are not > >>>uniform(studying themself, and by taking user > >>>feedbacks) and submit that list to MS, Mozilla, > >> > >>Opera > >> > >>>to be implemented! MS can release patches for IE, > >> > >>as > >> > >>>it practices today. I am not sure, whether W3C > >> > >>charter > >> > >>>permits this activity.. Probably yes.. It will > >> > >>surely > >> > >>>benifit users.. > >>> > >>>Regards, > >>>Mukul > >>> > >>>--- David Carlisle <davidc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> The "Web Browser Framework standard" could > >> > >>include > >> > >>>> something like following list as minimum set of > >>>> features that should be same(including spec > >>>>versions > >>>> like HTTP 1.1, XSLT 1.0 etc) across all > browsers > >> > >>- > >> > >>>>the chance of getting xslt in a minimum agreed > >> > >>set > >> > >>>>of features is > >>>>I would say zero. Opera, Safari and my mobile > >> > >>phone > >> > >>>>don't do xslt and I > >>>>don't see any sign of them doing so in the > >>>>foreseeable future. > >>>> > >>>>If you want to see what one subset of browser > >>>>implementors thinks is core > >>>>browse around > >>>> > >>>>http://www.whatwg.org/ > >>>> > >>>>David __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
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