RE: [xsl] Winddings, symbol etc

["Mark Williams" <mark@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi  Geert,

Thanks for suggestion.  Downloaded the stuff only to eventually discover that transform only works for office pro, which I don't have. 

Word wouldn't be suitable for what we are doing.  I am writing a rtf word processor which will also support xslt.  The word processor is similar to Word, but the functionality is cut down to only that which xslfo supports. I will also be designing it to convert according to which renderer is in use.  FOP for example is more limited than the commercial renderers, but often you can tweak the xslfo to cheat it.  All this is much easier to do from your own custom word processor than trying to automate Word (I say this from a position of experience having first tried to go down the word route - itbs a nightmare).

This is all fairly well advanced and I have written my own engine for conversion, but I have a few niggles such as symbol, wingdings and using the ascii extended codes.

I readily confess that my knowledge of xsl is pretty limited, however, so are my requirements.

All I really want to know is how I represent the symbol and wingding fonts in xslfo and how I can use the extended ascii codes.

The latter, I have pretty much figured out.  I think that all you have to do is use the html representation fo the character.  This way I seem to be able to recover at least 50% of the extended characters.

This leaves me trying to figure out how I use symbol and wingdings fonts.  My understanding is that there is no need to embed these fonts.  Acrobat has already embedded them.

I therefore assumed that if I insert the character 'a' into an xslfo document and declare the font family as wingdings it would appear in pdf as  a. But it doesn't it appears as 'a' and symbol appears as '#'.  Any idea why and what I need to do to get these to work?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geert Josten [mailto:Geert.Josten@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 3:45 PM
> To: xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [xsl] Winddings, symbol etc
> 
> Mark,
> 
> Ever considered saving the RTF to WordML with Word 2003 and 
> converting the WordML to XSL-FO using the stylesheets 
> available on 
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-
> us/odc_wd2003_ta/html/OfficeWordWordMLtoXSL-FO.asp
> 
> (download the exe, that contains the xsl's you need)
> 
> It is written by XEP and tweaked for their parser, but it 
> should work with FOP with only minor adjustments..
> 
> Cheers,
> Geert
> 
> Mark Williams wrote:
> 
> > Hi Jon,
> > 
> > Windows XP
> > FOP
> > Saxon parser
> > RTF documents using my own RTF to XSL converter (still in 
> development). 
> > 
> > Below is an example of the xslfo I am ouputting:
> > 
> > <fo:block font-family="Helvetica" font-size="11" 
> text-align="left">128   P</fo:block><fo:block 
> font-family="Helvetica" font-size="11" text-align="left">129  
>  P</fo:block><fo:block font-family="Helvetica" font-size="11" 
> text-align="left">130   b</fo:block><fo:block 
> font-family="Helvetica" font-size="11" text-align="left">131  
>  Q</fo:block><fo:block font-family="Helvetica" font-size="11" 
> text-align="left">132   b</fo:block><fo:block 
> font-family="Helvetica" font-size="11" text-align="left">133  
>  b&</fo:block><fo:block font-family="Helvetica" font-size="11" 
> text-align="left">134   b </fo:block><fo:block 
> font-family="Helvetica" font-size="11" text-align="left">135  
>  b!</fo:block><fo:block font-family="Helvetica" font-size="11" 
> text-align="left">136   b,</fo:block><fo:block 
> font-family="Helvetica" font-size="11" text-align="left">137  
>  b0</fo:block><fo:block font-family="Helvetica" font-size="11" 
> text-align="left">138   P	</fo:block>
> > 
> > And follow is the text extracted from the resulting pdf 
> when the above xslfo is run through fop:
> > 
> > 128 ?
> > 129 ?
> > 130 ?
> > 131 ?
> > 132 ?
> > 133 ?
> > 134 ?
> > 135 ?
> > 136 ?
> > 137 ?
> > 138 ?
> > 
> > The numbers on the left obviously represent the extended 
> ascii table code.
> > 
> > When I ouput the following xslfo:
> > <fo:block font-family="Symbol" font-size="11" 
> > text-align="left">abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz</fo:block>
> > 
> > The pdf outputs ##########################
> > 
> > Apologies if I'm still not giving you the info you need.  I 
> don't fully understand the process involved here.  I assumed 
> that if pdf supports arial etc it would support the extended 
> ascii codes.  Is someone able to advise me what is wrong with 
> my xslfo code?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Mark
> > 
> > 
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Jon Gorman [mailto:jonathan.gorman@xxxxxxxxx]
> >>Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 2:43 PM
> >>To: xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>Subject: Re: [xsl] Winddings, symbol etc
> >>
> >>Might also want to look into embedding the font.  This list 
> isn't too 
> >>active with the XSL-FO side of XSL, so I don't know how 
> much help you 
> >>can get there.  I'd check out the manual for whatever you're using 
> >>(FOP, XEP) as these issues are pretty common.  It can be a pain 
> >>dealing with character sets/fonts but perhaps someone else 
> has better 
> >>info.  As Geert mentioned, you are best off using the Unicode 
> >>characters.
> >>
> >>Of course, might be more helpful if you described the 
> process and told 
> >>us things like system environment, character sets of input, 
> character 
> >>sets of outputs,  documents, fonts tried, and xsl-fo processor used.
> >>
> >>
> >>Jon Gorman
> >>
> >>--~---------------------------------------------------------
> ---------
> >>XSL-List info and archive:  http://www.mulberrytech.com/xsl/xsl-list
> >>To unsubscribe, go to: http://lists.mulberrytech.com/xsl-list/
> >>or e-mail: <mailto:xsl-list-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>--~--
> >>
> >>
> 
> -- 
> Drs. G.P.H. Josten
> Consultant
> 
> 
> 
> Daidalos BV
> Source of Innovation
> Hoekeindsehof 1-4
> 2665  JZ  Bleiswijk
> Tel: +31 (0) 10 850 1200
> Fax: +31 (0) 10 850 1199
> www.daidalos.nl
> 
> 
> De informatie - verzonden in of met dit emailbericht - is 
> afkomstig van Daidalos BV en is 
> uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit 
> bericht onbedoeld hebt ontvangen, verzoeken 
> wij u het te verwijderen. Aan dit bericht kunnen geen rechten 
> worden ontleend.
> 
> 
> --~------------------------------------------------------------------
> XSL-List info and archive:  http://www.mulberrytech.com/xsl/xsl-list
> To unsubscribe, go to: http://lists.mulberrytech.com/xsl-list/
> or e-mail: <mailto:xsl-list-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> --~--