Subject: Re: [xsl] xsl 2.0? From: Toshihiko Makita <tmakita@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2013 00:41:46 +0900 |
Dear Liam Quin, Thank you for your reply. Your comment referred to the company Antenna House. Your description may be true. For your understanding I am only a application developer and I am not concerned to actual development of Antenna House Formatter. All of my questions or opinions are personal and they does not represent the intention of company. >Several major book publishers are using CSS-like solutions - including Antenna House's, which adds some 200 custom properties that are not really part of CSS, >and including YesLogic's PrinceXML formatter which is more limited in some ways but handles XML, not just XHTML, and supports OpenType. >There's a lot of pressure on CSS and on browser vendors from ebook publishers (and ebook user communities), so the CSS Working Group participants are >starting to take what they call paged media much more seriously. Yes, I know that several publishers like O'Reilly has moved from XSL-FO to CSS. And eBook publisher will have lots of requests for CSS because epub stand on the HTML5 technology. However I have basic question. What is the *MOST* fundamental benefit of CSS technology comparing XSL-FO in paged media? If an paper media and eBook media coexists for the moment, is CSS most suitable for this situation? I have been engaged developing stylesheets that converts various XML documents into XSL-FO. I know that there are many challenges left in automatic document formatting world. So I think it is not a good news for the XSL-FO users that W3C stop developing XSL2.0. Regards, (2013/11/02 1:48), Liam R E Quin wrote: > Subject: Re: [xsl] xsl 2.0? > <http://markmail.org/message/wmgz75gi2peqhplk> permalink > <http://markmail.org/message/wmgz75gi2peqhplk> > From: Liam R E Quin (li...@xxxxxx) > Date: Nov 2, 2013 1:48:29 am > List: com.mulberrytech.lists.xsl-list > > On Sat, 2013-11-02 at 16:23 +0900, Toshihiko Makita wrote: > > 1. Did W3C determine to discontinue developing XSL-FO 2.0 for the > feature? 2. What is the main cause that XSL-FO 2.0 > (http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-xslfo20-20120117/) has been failed? > > We have closed the Working Group because not enough people were taking > part. > > We do know that users were requesting new features. I was told > afterwards that Antenna House has implemented some of the 2.0 draft > features - their customers really wanted them. But none of the > commercial XSL-FO implementers were coming to meetings. I understand > in the case of Antenna House that there were/are language > difficulties, of course. > > A W3C specification must have multiple implementations to become a > Recommendation, and it wasn't clear that would ever happen for XSL-FO > 2.0. > > 3. I beleive that XSL-FO is most suitable techinology for formatting > XML documents. Does CSS techinology become the complete alternative of > the XSL-FO? > > No, as Dave Pawson said, not yet. > > But CSS is changing very fast. > > Several major book publishers are using CSS-like solutions - including > Antenna House's, which adds some 200 custom properties that are not > really part of CSS, and including YesLogic's PrinceXML formatter which > is more limited in some ways but handles XML, not just XHTML, and > supports OpenType. > > There's a lot of pressure on CSS and on browser vendors from ebook > publishers (and ebook user communities), so the CSS Working Group > participants are starting to take what they call paged media much more > seriously. > > There's also increased activity within the Member-only part of W3C, > especially in the new digital publishing activity (www.w3.org/dpub). > > Liam > > -- Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/ > Pictures from old books: http://fromoldbooks.org/ Ankh: > irc.sorcery.net irc.gnome.org freenode/#xml > > --~------------------------------------------------------------------ > XSL-List info and archive: http://www.mulberrytech.com/xsl/xsl-list To > unsubscribe, go to: http://lists.mulberrytech.com/xsl-list/ or e-mail: > <mailto:xsl-...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > --~-- > > > > -- /*-------------------------------------------------- Toshihiko Makita Development Group. Antenna House, Inc. Ina Branch E-Mail tmakita@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 8077-1 Horikita Minamiminowa Vil. Kamiina Co. Nagano Pref. 399-4511 Japan Tel +81-265-76-9300 Fax +81-265-78-1668 Web site: http://www.antenna.co.jp/ http://www.antennahouse.com/ --------------------------------------------------*/
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