Subject: Re: [stella] [Stella] I'm new here and have some question. From: A Braunsdorf <ab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:25:13 -0500 |
[ Sorry to digress on the 2600 list, but I know C64 stuff. -ab ] In message <000d01c053af$14557160$4b622126@dumpstertom>, "dumpstertom" writes: > Thanks Chris, Mark, and Rob for the helpful info. I think I'll start on the > C64 and then move on to the 2600. I wish I could find a good copy of > "Machine Language For Beginners" by Richard Mansfield. I'm going to try some > used book stores and flea markets maybe I'll get lucky. For the C64, you really want Commodore's "Programmers Reference Guide" (also). Back in the day, we called this thing the Blue Bible, and I still use it for reference on not only C64 stuff but 6502 stuff in general (though there's probably not enough there if you haven't used any assembly language before). If you want to do anything tricky or really want to geek out, the Abacus books that disassemble the system and 1541 disk drive ROMs are really good. There's also that line of books, one for each processor, that are all written in the same format. Who did those? Addison-Wesley? They're black and have the name of the processor in big pixelated characters. I found those helpful in jumping from the Z80 to the 6502 to the 6809, etc. The C64 was an awesome machine to learn and program when it was new, and it's still probably the easiest to deal with because the graphics system is robust and requires little CPU to do a lot of cool stuff. The Ataris (not just the 2600, but the later computers as well) require a lot more bit-banging to get stuff done, so it pays to have some programming under your belt first. It's also nice that the C64 is "self-hosting", that is, you can develop your code on the same machine it runs on. Since you're probably using an emulator these days anyway for any of these machines, I guess that's not as big a deal anymore. :-) ab -- Archives (includes files) at http://www.biglist.com/lists/stella/archives/ Unsub & more at http://www.biglist.com/lists/stella/
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