Subject: RE: [stella] A new generation--offa stella list? From: "Bob Montgomery" <BobM@xxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 17:17:11 -0400 |
Well, I'm here (vdub_bobby). But I dunno...I feel a little more comfortable asking questions on the AA forums than I do here, for whatever reason. Some other semi-related thoughts: [stella] is amazingly cool as a resource; when I have a tough question I go to the the [stella] archives first more often than not; the "problem" is that I usually waste half an hour down mile-long rabbit trails reading three-year-old posts about what HSYNC does or something! On the other hand, [stella] does seem a little like an old club where everybody knows everybody else; it isn't that the folks here are hostile (or anything but welcoming, really) to newcomers, I just feel like an outsider nonetheless, and I hesitate to ask questions here. And also, a lot of the talk on [stella] lately has been extremely technical hardware questions - very interesting to read but it's a subject towards which I have very little to contribute. -bob -----Original Message----- From: Kirk Israel [mailto:kirkjerk@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:21 PM To: stella@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [stella] A new generation--offa stella list? So I keep up with AtariAge.com...and I see a lot of interesting stuff happening there.. cd-w's Hunch and Jetman , vdub-bobby's "Go Fish" and "M4", plus the Man Goes Down and Fall Down projects. It occurs to me that I've seen barely any talk from these guys on [stella]. So maybe they're that much better than I was starting out (not that hard!) -- but I do see some action from them on the AA Programming for Newbie forums. So they're not totally setting out on their own... So a prophecy about [stella]....a *prediction* on what seems likely to happen, (as oppoed to what I think should happen either way)...but I think unless there's some kind of effort to drag newbies to [stella] the mailing list, eventually the new action is all going to migrate to AtariAge's forums, or some other web-based site, where there's a more obvious public gateway (i.e. people browsing on AA might stumble on the tech talk gradually). Maybe we've seen some of this already...[stella] has had a lot of lulls, and I've only been on for 3 years or so, but it does seem like a significant funk. But if these guys had posted their questions here on [stella], it wouldn't seem nearly so mysteriously quiet, and people wouldn't be questioning its health. I have mixed feelings about this. [stella] has been a special place for a lot of us--I've always been amazed at the generosity in time and code I've seen here-- and its archive will always have immense intellectual and emotional and historical value. And it was cool and useful to have a bit of an "insiders" place...not invitation only, and with public records, but still out of the public eye for the most part. On the other hand, I think the accesibilty of the web is a postive thing. And if it IS going to happen someplace beside [stella], AtariAge is a swell place, with a commited staff. So what do you think? Am I right in my guesses about the present and future of [stella]? If so should we fight it or roll with it? At some point I should probably update 2600101 to reflect some of the changes, just like I changed to de-hozer-ize it back in the day. -Kirk Archives (includes files) at http://www.biglist.com/lists/stella/archives/ Unsub & more at http://stella.biglist.com Archives (includes files) at http://www.biglist.com/lists/stella/archives/ Unsub & more at http://stella.biglist.com
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