Subject: Re: alternating tags in a list? From: Guy_Murphy@xxxxxxxxxx Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:00:55 +0000 |
Hi. It sounds as if your working experience is similar to my own. Situations arise when code has to be hacked *now* in the most expediant way. As you point out, figuring a neat "proper" declaritive way of doing it later if fine, but if I need to drop in a scripted hack I need to. I find it scary when people start talking about steering the language a certian way as it will force developers to code by somebody elses notion of a "good way". I resent people policing my development frrom afar and deciding what the best way for me to tackle my develpment is. Everybody is entitled to place on the table what they think would be a good thing for their sphere of concern, just not some purists dream because ti will be good for everybody else. I really don't want to be backed into another corner where yet another MS tool is the most viable option, but I will use what I feel to be the best tools at hand, and unortunately if the W3C keep script out of XSL it looks like for our intranetnet development I'll be using an NT box, will IIS, MS XSL, delivering to MS IE, in short, the whole front end delivery will be an MS solution. My point isn't to spark another MS debate, it could be any company in question, and my own idea of a perfect world doesn't include MS domination, however there are reason why MS is chewing up the IT industry, and the development of XSL is shaping up to be another prime example of how MS is doing it. XSL is a direct threat to ASP, you can garantee that MS will be all over it, and if they can manage another "embrace and extend" flanking maneuver, they will. The W3C are fools if they ignore this. Denying the reality of it will just see them loosing control of main-stream XSL to MS. Personaly I hope the W3C can avoid making this mistake. Cheers Guy. xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on 12/17/98 10:22:45 PM To: xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx cc: (bcc: Guy Murphy/UK/MAID) Subject: Re: alternating tags in a list? [SNIP] Imagine someone else's XSL formatter lands on my desk one day. A client says, "The gulf war just broke out again, and I need you to do this new CNN-style layout to repurpose some of our documents from the last conflict." To my horror, I find out that I can't modify the existing XSL script to do what I need. So do I have to rewrite the entire thing from scratch in another XSL-like language, or can I simply drop to a scripting language to do whats needed in an emergency, with full knowledge of what I'm doing? I find this whole discussion sort of like the JNI issue in Java. Yes it's ugly. Yes, it makes stuff less portable. Yes, it is harder to maintain, etc. But sometimes you absolutely *need it* Later on, you can rewrite it in a less ugly, more pleasing manner (pure Java), or in XSL's case - a post process step. I hope the XSL WG doesn't do the unthinkable: force everyone to use Microsoft's "extended standard" XSL-List info and archive: http://www.mulberrytech.com/xsl/xsl-list XSL-List info and archive: http://www.mulberrytech.com/xsl/xsl-list
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