Re: [xsl] IE browsers

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gl, jim fuller

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosa I-Ting Cheng" <Rosa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 7:46 AM
Subject: RE: [xsl] IE browsers


> Do you know a way to check for msxml3's existence before showing that
> download page? ie, only people who doesn't have that msxml3 page will have
> to see that download page, while the ones who do have msxml3, will just go
> directly to the info page.
>
> btw thanx for ur thought, it's very useful! I was actually wondering about
> that b4, but haven't had much thought on it.
>
> cheers
>
> rosa
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hahn, Kimberly [mailto:Kim.Hahn@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, 31 August 2001 4:45 AM
> To: xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [xsl] IE browsers
>
>
> Rosa,
> The tag should be fine in the body.  Below is a very short example html
> page -
> <HTML>
> <HEAD>
> <META NAME="GENERATOR" Content="Microsoft Visual Studio 6.0">
> <TITLE></TITLE>
> </HEAD>
> <BODY>
> <input id="me" value=" hey there 1 !" >
>
> <object CLASSID="CLSID:f5078f19-c551-11d3-89b9-0000f81fe221"
> codebase="../../../controls/msxml3.cab#version=8,00,7820,0" id="msxml3"
> VIEWASTEXT></object>
>
> <input id="me" value=" hey there !" >
> </BODY>
> </HTML>
>
> This displays fine when I view it in IE.  Let me know if you are not able
to
> view it & still see the  two input boxes.  If you can view it fine, is
there
> a possibility that one of the style sheets you are using is having issues
> with the object tag?
>
> Not really related to your problem, but just a thought -
> You may want to consider sending the user to a "downloading controls" page
> after they log in (just before they get to the page they are logging
into).
> This lets you put the msxml object tag in a page that tells the user what
is
> going on.  Otherwise, they may be confused and think that your page is
> simply taking a long time to load.  Sounds silly, but that is exactly why
> the web based app I work on has such a page.  In the download page, the
> window_onLoad code triggers the load of the first page in the application,
> this code is only reached after the user has the control.  This also means
> that only users who successfully log in are pulling the control.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Chris Bayes
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 9:08 PM
> To: xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [xsl] IE browsers
>
>
> Rosa,
> Move the <object> tag into the <head>
>
> Ciao Chris
>
> XML/XSL Portal
> http://www.bayes.co.uk/xml
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:owner-xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > Rosa I-Ting Cheng
> > Sent: 30 August 2001 00:36
> > To: 'Kimberly.Hahn@xxxxxxxxxx'; xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [xsl] IE browsers
> >
> >
> > I tried viewing it in IE as well, but I get blank...
> > this is what I have (I have the Object code temporarily
> > commented out since IE goes blank if I have it in there):
> >
> > <%@ Language=VBScript %>
> > <%Option Explicit%>
> > <!--Get Title Info for html header-->
> > <!--#include file="../../Include/TitleInfo.asp"-->
> > <!--#include file="../../Include/Standard.asp"-->
> > <%
> > Dim ibrandid, sPage, sCssName, sCSSBodyName, LoginName, sURL
> > 'Code to prevent caching (provided by
> > Karthik)+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Dim strModified,dtModified
> > dtModified = now()
> > ibrandid = Application("BrandId")
> >
> > 'Construct Last Modified String
> > strModified = WeekDayName(WeekDay(dtModified),TRUE) & ", " &
> > Day(dtModified) & " " & MonthName(Month(dtModified),TRUE) & "
> > " & Year(dtModified) & " " &
> > Hour(dtModified) & ":" & Minute(dtModified) & ":" &
> > Second(dtModified) & " GMT"
> >
> > ' Set the Last Modified Header
> > Response.AddHeader "Last-modified", strModified
> > Response.Expires = -1440 Response.AddHeader "Pragma",
> > "No-Cache" Response.CacheControl = "No-Cache"
> > '+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > ++++++++++++++
> > +++++++++++++
> > sPage="salesAgentMain.asp"
> > sCSSName="../../" & sCSSLocation
> > sCSSBodyName="../../" & sBodyCSSLocation
> > LoginName =Request.QueryString("AgentID")
> >
> > sURL = "http://"; & Request.ServerVariables("Server_Name") &
> > "/AgentAdmin/template/RetrievePortfolio.xml?agentloginid=" &
> > LoginName & "&brandid=" & ibrandid %> <HTML> <HEAD>
> > <title><%=sBrandName%></title> <!--<%response.write
> > "sBrandName " & sBrandName%>--> <link href="<%="http://"; &
> > Request.ServerVariables("Server_Name") & "/" &
> > sCSSLocation%>" type="text/css" rel="styleSheet"> <link
> > href="<%="http://"; & Request.ServerVariables("Server_Name") &
> > "/" & sBodyCSSLocation%>" type="text/css" rel="styleSheet">
> >
> >
> > <SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript">
> > </SCRIPT>
> > </HEAD>
> >
> > <xml id="qXML"></xml>
> > <xml id="xmlCopy"></xml>
> > <xml id="fXSL"></xml>
> >
> > <!--<object CLASSID="CLSID:f5078f19-c551-11d3-89b9-0000f81fe221"
> > codebase="../../../msxmldl/msxml3.cab#version=8,00,7820,0" id="msxml3"
> > VIEWASTEXT></object>-->
> >
> > <!--<object id="MSXML3"
> > classid="clsid:f5078f32-c551-11d3-89b9-0000f81fe221"
> >  codebase="../../../msxmldl/msxml3.cab#version=8,00,7820,0"
> > type="application/x-oleobject"
> > STYLE="display: none">
> > </object>-->
> >
> > <FORM name="mainForm">
> > <INPUT name="logon" value="<%=LoginName%>" type="HIDDEN"/>
> > <INPUT name="css1" value="<%="http://"; &
> > Request.ServerVariables("Server_Name") & "/" &
> > sCSSLocation%>" type="HIDDEN"/> <INPUT name="css2"
> > value="<%="http://"; &
> > Request.ServerVariables("Server_Name") & "/" &
> > sBodyCSSLocation%>" type="HIDDEN"/> <INPUT name="servername"
> > value="<%="http://"; &
> > Request.ServerVariables("Server_Name")%>" type="HIDDEN"/> </FORM>
> >
> > <frameset rows="165,*" border=0 marginheight=0 marginwidth=0
> > topmargin=0>
> > <frame src="treeagent.asp" name="xmlStr" noresize
> > frameborder=no framespacing=0 border=0 marginheight=0
> > marginwidth=0 topmargin=0 scrolling=no NORESIZE>
> > <frame src="<%=sURL%>" name="MainFrame" frameborder=no
> > framespacing=0 border=0 noresize marginheight=0
> > marginwidth=0> </frameset>
> >
> > </HTML>
> >
> >
> > thanx!!
> >
> > Rosa
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hahn, Kimberly [mailto:Kim.Hahn@xxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Saturday, 25 August 2001 1:00 AM
> > To: Rosa I-Ting Cheng
> > Subject: RE: [xsl] IE browsers
> >
> >
> > The tag I included doesn't display anything.  It just ensures
> > that the file will be loaded on a user's computer.  If you
> > are using Interdev, a file with this tag may give you that
> > message, but if you view the page from IE it should not give
> > you that message.  The tag is there more for IE then for
> > anything else.  IE uses the tag and determines if the MSXML
> > referenced in the tag is available on the user's machine.  If
> > it is IE doesn't do anything, all is well.  If IE doesn't
> > find that version of MSXML or higher then it downloads the
> > cab and registers the files in the cab.  That way you know
> > that client side transformations will be done with a version
> > of MSXML that knows how to handle your namespaces.
> >
> > This isn't a universal fix.  If you have a user that is
> > running NT or 2000 that does not have administrative rights
> > on their machine, then IE will not be able to download and
> > use the MSXML referenced in the tag.  These users will need
> > to get someone who has administrative rights to install the
> > file to their machine.  Also, user's with security settings
> > that will not accept downloads could have problems.  For the
> > application I work on we have included these issues in our
> > FAQ.  I would also encourage you to pull a copy of the cab
> > file to your web directory and reference it from your
> > wwwroot. There is no guarantee that MSDN will leave it in the
> > directory the file is in today (I've been burnt by this in the past).
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rosa I-Ting Cheng [mailto:Rosa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 9:49 PM
> > To: 'Kimberly.Hahn@xxxxxxxxxx'
> > Subject: RE: [xsl] IE browsers
> >
> >
> > I tried adding that piece of code in (the exact code with the
> > path changed to suit my file location as the msdn site) and
> > I'm using it in an ASP page, but when I run the page, I get
> > blank.  and when I was editing the page in the ms development
> > environ, I want to change to design view, I get the
> > error: "An object has failed to load.  The object will be
> > displayed as text." so I presume it's something wrong when
> > loading the object. can you please tell me y?
> >
> > thanx!
> >
> > Rosa
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hahn, Kimberly [mailto:Kim.Hahn@xxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, 24 August 2001 12:59 AM
> > To: xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Rosa I-Ting Cheng
> > Subject: RE: [xsl] IE browsers
> >
> >
> > I work on an application that uses IE 5.x and up,
> > exclusively.  To make sure that the XSLT/XSL that is used by
> > the web based application will run on client machines we make
> > sure that the client has at least the MSXML that we need
> > installed.  This is done as the user logs into the system
> > using the following tag in a web page:
> >
> > <object CLASSID="CLSID:f5078f19-c551-11d3-89b9-0000f81fe221"
> > codebase="../../controls/msxml3.cab#version=8,00,7820,0" id="msxml3"
> > VIEWASTEXT></object>
> >
> > We pulled the cab file from a Microsoft web site.  We have
> > both domestic and international users and this has been
> > working well for US systems and European systems.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:owner-xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Hewko, Doug
> > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 7:18 AM
> > To: 'xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'; 'Rosa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > Subject: RE: [xsl] IE browsers
> >
> >
> > First, there's a MSXML XSL FAQ at
> > http://www.netcrucible.com/xslt/msxml-faq.htm
> >
> > It says that IE 5 and up has XSL in it. XML will not work
> > under XSL without modification. I've tried. (And to be
> > honest, I do not know if you can even install additional EXEs
> > to get it to work.)
> >
> > IE 5, 5.5 comes with an early pre-recommendation version of
> > XSL, namely "TR/WD-xsl". Consequently, your XSL will work but
> > not all commands are available. To use the more interesting
> > (and standardized) features of XSL, you will either have to
> > update to MSXML 4.0 or go server-side.
> >
> > I can not comment on IE 6 because it is only in beta stage.
> > But it is interesting that Microsoft does not make any
> > mention of IE 6 supporting XML on their web site. They do
> > advertise increased CSS and DHTML support though... (URL:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/preview/fault/default.asp )
> >
> > I hope this helps.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rosa I-Ting Cheng [mailto:Rosa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: August 22, 2001 10:36 PM
> > To: 'xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > Subject: RE: [xsl] IE browsers
> >
> >
> > ok so just to get things a bit more clearer...
> > XML works on IE browsers from 4 upwards right?
> > then IE 4, 5 and 5.5 all require extra EXEs such as the SP1
> > and the xmlinst.exe etc to be installed for the XSL to work
> > properly on them? then XSL only works properly on IE 6
> > without installing anyother EXEs?
> >
> > rosa
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Max Dunn [mailto:maxdunn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, 23 August 2001 11:48 AM
> > To: xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [xsl] IE browsers
> >
> >
> > IE 5.5 is no better than 5.0 with respect to XSLT.  You need
> > to install MSXML3 SP1 (This is available as one program
> > including MSXML and the service pack) and xmlinst.exe to
> > transform XML properly in IE 5.5.
> >
> > Max
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:owner-xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > Rosa I-Ting Cheng
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 6:29 PM
> > To: 'xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > Subject: [xsl] IE browsers
> >
> >
> > Dear pplz,
> >
> > I know that XSL and XML works fine on IE6, but as for IE5.5,
> > do you really need to install the MSXMLWR.EXE and the
> > xmlinst.exe (think this is the
> > parser) for the XSL to transform the XML properly? (I
> > downloaded the exes a while ago to work on IE5.5, and can't
> > exactly remember their actual
> > names)
> > There was at a stage where after installing those 2 exes
> > above, the browser still didn't work, and showed a PCDATA
> > problem comment.  So one of my colleagues found this xml3 sp1
> > which then made the browser work with XSL and XML. (by work I
> > mean allowed the XML to be transformed and show meaningful
> > info)
> > so my question is: Is there anything I can add into the
> > XSL/XML so that there is no need to install the MSXMLWR,
> > xmlinst and the sp1? Or do I have to install all three and
> > this is the only option?
> >
> >
> > Rosa
> >
> >
> >
> >
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