Subject: RE: XML architectures [was Re: [xsl] xsl:sort in old MSXML] From: "Claudio Russo" <crusso@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 15:16:55 -0300 |
Wendell, Yeah, I agree on the last, but I didn't figure it out at the very first beggining, when I read the Marcus Andersson first msg and Michael last reply to it, and recallin other msgs, that somehow it always came out this architectural issue (some one could read it "implementation problems") that I had some doubts about it. "I can see clearly now" as the song says, but I still have some concerns (I can live with them for a while). Claudio. PS: Excuse all for my bad english ("The Former") :) -----Original Message----- From: Wendell Piez [mailto:wapiez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Miércoles, 02 de Julio de 2003 01:51 p.m. To: xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: XML architectures [was Re: [xsl] xsl:sort in old MSXML] At 12:01 PM 7/2/2003, Olivier wrote: >Maybe Claudio need to transform XML data island embedded in HTML files. > >Just a guess. Be warned, however, that this approach *is* proprietary ... pioneered at MS and implemented in no one else's browser.... Claudio, it might also help to see that in the three approaches mentioned so far: batch transform server-side (dynamic) transform client-side transform the underlying architecture is the same. XML --> transform --> formatted output (HTML, PDF, whatever) The differences are in *where* and *when* the middle piece happens. A batch model (do all the processing on your home system ahead of time; all the world sees a traditional HTML site) is the most "primitive" but most stable, dependable and scalable. Server-side solutions are more and more available, work quite well, and can support some kinds of interaction impossible in the batch model; but they do require special software on the server. (In the batch model you run your transformations outside of the web server, as David has described.) Client-side solutions are appealing in theory, but slow to materialize in the market, especially in a browser-independent form -- partly because they require special software on the client. XML "data islands" use quite a different architecture ... they wrap a client-side transform in a JScript/VB scripted HTML package, and deliver that. They work only in MSIE (to my knowledge). It's a pity we didn't rename this thread. How will we ever find it? Cheers, Wendell ====================================================================== Wendell Piez mailto:wapiez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Mulberry Technologies, Inc. http://www.mulberrytech.com 17 West Jefferson Street Direct Phone: 301/315-9635 Suite 207 Phone: 301/315-9631 Rockville, MD 20850 Fax: 301/315-8285 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mulberry Technologies: A Consultancy Specializing in SGML and XML ====================================================================== XSL-List info and archive: http://www.mulberrytech.com/xsl/xsl-list XSL-List info and archive: http://www.mulberrytech.com/xsl/xsl-list
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