Re: [xsl] Understanding why <tag></tag> is the way it is (wa

On 03/08/07, G. Ken Holman <gkholman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> At 2007-08-03 20:37 +0200, you wrote:
> >On 03/08/07, G. Ken Holman <gkholman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > At 2007-08-03 19:19 +0200, Manfred Staudinger wrote:
> > > >On 03/08/07, Abel Braaksma <abel.online@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > There is a cdata-section-elements on xsl:output, but not a
> > > > > never-minimize-elements attribute or something similar.
> > > >There is no need for such an attribute, because MSXML3 handles
> > > >the two cases differently. If you specify in your stylesheet
> > > ><div style="display: none"/> it becomes <div style="display: none" />
> > > >(invalid html)
> > > >but
> > > ><div style="display: none"></div> becomes <div style="display:
> > none"></div>
> > > >in the output.
> > > >
> > > >Note that there is _no_ need to using nbsp or xsl:comment to ensure
> > > >valid html !
> > >
> > > I disagree with your summary above based on my own experiences that
> > > when using the HTML serialization with MSXML and other tools.  The
> > > distinction you make is for XML serialization, not for HTML
> > > serialization.
> >Speaking only about serialization with MSXML this holds for both xsl:output
> >methods, XML and HTML. Why do you think its different for HTML?
>
> Because I demonstrated it in the earlier email ... copied below ...
> look at the end result ... manfred1.xsl uses method="html" and
> manfred2.xsl uses method="xml" and the serialization by MSXML is
> demonstratively different.
Sorry yes, I should have seen this, thanks. The difference to my results
(see below) is here:
> t:\ftemp>type manfred.xsl
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="US-ASCII"?>
> <xsl:stylesheet xmlns:xsl="http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform";
>                  version="1.0">
>
> <xsl:output method="html"/>
>
> <xsl:template match="/">
>    <body>
>      <div style="display: none"></div>
>      <div style="display: none"/>
>    </body>
> </xsl:template>
>
> </xsl:stylesheet>
> t:\ftemp>xslt-msxsl manfred.xsl manfred.xsl con
> <body>
> <div style="display: none"></div>
> <div style="display: none"></div>
> </body>
In my test the last div is serialized as <div style="display: none" /> !

> Why do you think the serialization by MSXML of the two is the same?
My turn, sure. I've set up a test at http://test.rudolphina.org/Test_IE_Ken.xml
with a PI for http://test.rudolphina.org/Test_IE_vKen.xsl  (method html).
You will find the two div's at the very end of the stylesheet and when
I display it with IE 6 and view the xsl output, I see the second div is in
compact format.

The same xsl, but with xsl:output method xml may be invoked by
http://test.rudolphina.org/Test_IE.xml  which has a PI for
http://test.rudolphina.org/Test_IE_view.xsl
and gives the same result as yours:
> t:\ftemp>xslt-saxon manfred.xsl manfred.xsl con
> <body>
>     <div style="display: none"></div>
>     <div style="display: none"></div>
> </body>
> t:\ftemp>type manfred2.xsl
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="US-ASCII"?>
> <xsl:stylesheet xmlns:xsl="http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform";
>                  version="1.0">
>
> <xsl:output method="xml" indent="yes"/>
>
> <xsl:template match="/">
>    <body>
>      <div style="display: none"></div>
>      <div style="display: none"/>
>    </body>
> </xsl:template>
>
> </xsl:stylesheet>
> t:\ftemp>xslt-msxsl manfred2.xsl manfred2.xsl con
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-16"?>
> <body>
> <div style="display: none"></div>
> <div style="display: none" />
> </body>

Thinking about possible causes, what version of MSXML do you use?

Thanks a lot,
Manfred

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