Subject: Re: [xsl] Off Topic : XSLT Jobs in USA From: Mailing Lists Mail <daktapaal@xxxxxxxxx> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 10:37:39 -0700 |
I have had the experience of being in a company where XSLT2 was *not* allowed. Even with the XSLT1, we were told that the "advanced" techniques should be avoided.. I was like a bit of in shock as in what could be "advanced" in XSLT1 when the whole version is kind of very old now? The reasons given to me were: This is a Microsoft based projects and we don't want XSLT2 here.. The second reason for avoiding the "advanced" techniques ( like keys etc ) in XSLT1 was that, the engineers working in the MS dotNet side, wont understand it.. This was a shame...Instead of educating the engineers, XSLT specialists were asked to underperform in their coding ...This is true with most of the companies where Microsoft is involved as a development platform.. It is OK to get on to Dotnet API for XML and use dot NET file system APIs for file outputs, instead of using for instance xsl:result-document .. On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Dimitre Novatchev <dnovatchev@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Quick search on seek.com.au right now yields 86 jobs Australia wide, >> and a *lot* of them are integration systems / middleware systems > > AFAI remember Australia from 2006, this means that there are 80+ > recruitment agencies, each advertising the same job ... > > > Cheers, > Dimitre > > > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 11:58 PM, Alexander Johannesen > <alexander.johannesen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Hiya, >> >> Hmm, there's a host of enterprise systems that still use XSLT 1.0, >> some with some extensions, but mostly simple stuff. A lot of CMS >> systems still use it, but it's rare to find XSLT high on the list of >> skills people want. >> >> Quick search on seek.com.au right now yields 86 jobs Australia wide, >> and a *lot* of them are integration systems / middleware systems. I >> know the National Library uses some (because I injected it :) ), but >> I've yet to find a job that really needs XSLT as a core skill, or even >> important; most will say exposure to it, or some knowledge or >> experience in it. Which makes it a bit hard for a pro to sell it. >> >> Let me put it this way; XSLT is a nice to have rather than a must-have >> on every single job I've ever had. >> >> Alex >> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Ben Stringer >> <ben.stringer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> On 25 October 2013 17:13, davep <davep@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 24/10/13 20:25, Mailing Lists Mail wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Wendell, >>>>> I have been in this list for a very very long time and had noticed a >>>>> lot of posters that come from USA. So this was something that got me >>>>> thinking that there probably are many programmers / jobs into XML/XSLT >>>>> in the USA, so thaz where the "huge presence" came from, also going by >>>>> the size of the country multiplied by the number of companies, it had >>>>> formed enough basis for my assumption... in UK/Aus, UK especially ( >>>>> being a very small country) , I have seen a lot of people who ask for >>>>> Specialist XSLT/XML developers. Just when we think we have explored >>>>> "n" number of clients in the country, a totally "unheard of" client >>>>> ends up calling for XSLT developers offering a very good rate.. This >>>>> keeps the contractors engaged and encouraged to be doing the XSLT >>>>> development..So that was what I was referring to when I said "enough >>>>> companies in USA " who are into the XSLT development. >>>>> USA as I hear is a "generalist" techy oriented place.. Where XSLT may >>>>> not be the core skill someone is looking for. Which makes me think >>>>> ,why and how some generalist will keep himself abreast of technologies >>>>> like XSLT3 etc, if all he wants is a job anyone can do, mainly Java >>>>> J2EE development with some XML skills.. I am sure there are specialist >>>>> companies in the USA like mulberrytech, marklogic, IBM etc, who >>>>> probably do XML day in and day out/..but for some reason I don't see >>>>> them asking for people. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> One slant on this, with a UK bias. >>>> Given n aspects to a workflow involving XML, XSLT, it is often >>>> the XSLT skills that are hardest to find which may explain why >>>> it receives emphasis in the adverts. If, in reality it is a minor >>>> aspect,of the work, the interviewer is unlikely to know enough >>>> to judge the interviewees level of expertise. >>>> >>>> I wonder how many $employers still believe XSLT 1.0 is still >>>> current? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> XSLT 1.0 is still actively used in IBM's DataPower appliances. >>> >>> There is a steady (and perhaps growing) need for DataPower specialists >>> where I am working, in Australia. Whilst some roles may only be >>> related to the installation and administration of the appliances, most >>> require people with XSLT 1 skills. >>> >>> Generally employers won't request XSLT 1 skills, rather they would >>> advertise for DataPower skills, so this need for XSLT-skilled people >>> may not be apparent when looking at job ads. Only the candidates for >>> these positions recognise the linkage. >>> >>> Cheers, Ben >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> regards >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dave Pawson >>>> XSLT XSL-FO FAQ. >>>> http://www.dpawson.co.uk >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Project Wrangler, SOA, Information Alchemist, UX, RESTafarian, Topic Maps >> --- http://shelter.nu/blog/ ---------------------------------------------- >> ------------------ http://www.google.com/profiles/alexander.johannesen --- >> > > > > -- > Cheers, > Dimitre Novatchev > --------------------------------------- > Truly great madness cannot be achieved without significant intelligence. > --------------------------------------- > To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk > ------------------------------------- > Never fight an inanimate object > ------------------------------------- > To avoid situations in which you might make mistakes may be the > biggest mistake of all > ------------------------------------ > Quality means doing it right when no one is looking. > ------------------------------------- > You've achieved success in your field when you don't know whether what > you're doing is work or play > ------------------------------------- > Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. > ------------------------------------- > Typing monkeys will write all Shakespeare's works in 200yrs.Will they > write all patents, too? :) > ------------------------------------- > I finally figured out the only reason to be alive is to enjoy it.
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