Re: [xsl] Looking for XSLT / XML specific roles

["Wendell Piez wapiez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <xsl-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hello Amrendra,

My unsolicited advice. There are at least two possible worlds. In one, no
one has any work because corporate masters learn to live without us and no
one has a job.

In another, that whole thing comes crashing down (all at once or in phases)
as people learn what actually changes with a new capability (whose actual
edges are not yet known), or however you characterize the current
technological "heavenly body'' (capital gravity sink), what you call "AI
stuff". And figure out which promises were false and delusional. And there
is lots of work cleaning up the mess.

In the first world, worrying about XSLT isn't going to help much. I'm not
sure if we'll all be farm workers, or even what kind of paradise on earth
is supposed to be on offer. (I hear them saying this could be good for
humanity but the details are vague.)

But it is hard to know how to prepare for that world, while it is still
possible to prepare for a world in which XSLT continues to be used. What
kind of world is that? In my 'better world for XSLT', data processing
systems would be regarded as the contraptions they are. Not
magical, somehow divine uber-oracles whose inscrutable word can only be
acquiesced to, answerable to no one. Instead, always up to us to
design, operate and control for useful purposes (e.g., not just dodging
accountability).

Regarding data processing (in whatever incarnation) as somehow magical may
have been the problem all along. Now they are only trying to put the magic
in bottles and sell it. Do we say "it doesn't go into bottles" or do we
show that there isn't actually any magic, and never really has been?

It sounds 'out there' but it's a practical question. What kind of system do
you want to help build?

Who knows, maybe standards, testability and actual 'engineering' (as I call
it) will come back into vogue. In that world, XSLT skills might mean a lot.
One way to prepare for that would be by brushing up on your XProc and XSLT
3.0.

Regards - and good luck!
Wendell


On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 5:49b/AM Amrendra Kumar Gupta amrendra858@xxxxxxxxx
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xsl-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Only XML / XSLT is tough now!!
>
> Thanks to AI stuffs ;)
>
> _________________
> *Regards,*
> *Amrendra Kr. Gupta*
> *+91 8588817220*
>
> On Fri, 11 Jul 2025, 11:48 Alan Painter alan.painter@xxxxxxxxx, <
> xsl-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> C'est normale ...
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 11, 2025, 08:06 Liam R. E. Quin liam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <
>> xsl-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 2025-07-11 at 06:03 +0000, Alan Painter alan.painter@xxxxxxxxx
>>> wrote:
>>> > It might have to do with the announced 35% tariff on elements and
>>> > attributes.
>>>
>>> As we say here, Pour les tariffs on FranC'ais appuyer sur le deux.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > #badjoke #getscoat
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Jul 11, 2025, 07:06 Liam R. E. Quin liam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > <xsl-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> > > On Fri, 2025-07-11 at 04:34 +0000, Mailing Lists Mail
>>> > > daktapaal@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>> > > > Hey All.
>>> > > > Giving you all a shout, in case anyone is looking to hire XSLT /
>>> > > > XML
>>> > > > developers in the USA?  Situation is looking tough in the USA.
>>> > > > There
>>> > > > are absolutely 0 jobs right now.
>>> > >
>>> > > It's not easy here in Canada either. Ibm thinking about working in
>>> > > a
>>> > > restaurant instead.
>>> > >
>>> > > liam
>>> > >
>>>
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