Subject: Re:RE: XSLT vs JSP From: KAREN_LEICHEL@xxxxxxxx Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:35:44 -0500 |
Hi everyone, I am one of those "editors" that "find DSSSL and XSL too difficult to use". Actually, the market for editors/tech writers these days quite often demands that these people have a working knowledge of not just one, but several programming languages. I think it is to make up for engineers and SME's that do not communicate well in English. Apparantly it is easier to teach programming to writers than to teach communication in English to engineers. Tech writers need to understand certain programming langueges (or so such companies as IBM and Cisco think) to produce GUIs as well. In fact, knowing the programming languages far outweighs having many years of graphics and design experience and a degree in design when hiring. I would not worry about the new breed of tech writers/editors having too much trouble. At companies like mine, there will be one or two who can understand, or the company will hire a consultant to deal with the DSSSL or XSL. Having more power and more portability is incredibly important to United Defense since we are working with extremely large, complex documents and the customer (DOD) wants--demands--single source databases to make it harder to make mistakes. Karey Leichel ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: RE: XSLT vs JSP Author: "Didier PH Martin" <martind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 6/27/99 8:09 PM HI Sebastian, The point was that DSSSL is too hard too learn for editors. I replied that DSSSL and XSL both share the same level of difficulties. I'll be more precise. CSS is easier to learn but also less powerful. Both DSSSL and XSL resolve problems you cannot resolve with CSS but also requires more knowledge. Both DSSSL and XSL are more sophisticated languages than CSS (this does not include STTS which does transformation). Like all languages, it requires apprenticeship. regards Didier PH Martin mailto:martind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.netfolder.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Sebastian Rahtz Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 8:21 AM To: xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: XSLT vs JSP Didier PH Martin writes: > probably rely on a much simple language like CSS. XSL and DSSSL have, at > first sight, for most people about the same level of difficulties. Also, > because CSS is based on a kind of property set approach, it can be easily > encapsulated with a UI and therefore be more accessible to people without > any programming knowledge. > is true, the CSS style editor in XMetal is really rather useable. if CSS is what you want. take a fragment like <url doc="http://x.y.z"/>[1] and tell me how to show the damned URL with CSS.... never mind taking <x idref="XX"/> and replacing it with the contents of <code id="XX">Goodbye Cruel World</code>! sebastian [1] so that doc can be declared as an ENTITY notation, forcing me to store my URLs nicely somewhere XSL-List info and archive: http://www.mulberrytech.com/xsl/xsl-list XSL-List info and archive: http://www.mulberrytech.com/xsl/xsl-list Received: from portal.udlp.com ([192.169.4.225]) by ccmail.udlp.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 3.12) id 00048010; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 07:55:47 -0500 Received: from portal.udlp.com (root@localhost) by portal.udlp.com with ESMTP id HAA11808 for <KAREN_LEICHEL@xxxxxxxx>; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 07:57:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from web4-1.ability.net (web4-1.ability.net [216.32.69.9]) by portal.udlp.com with ESMTP id HAA11798 for <KAREN_LEICHEL@xxxxxxxx>; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 07:57:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mulberrytech.com by web4-1.ability.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA00841 Tue, 29 Jun 1999 07:52:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by mulberrytech.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA00839 Tue, 29 Jun 1999 07:52:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Didier PH Martin" <martind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: XSLT vs JSP Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 20:09:36 -0400 Message-ID: <NBBBJPGDLPIHJGEHAKBAIECBDKAA.martind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2212 (4.71.2419.0) In-reply-to: <14200.47640.153679.4943@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Precedence: bulk Reply-To: xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx XSL-List info and archive: http://www.mulberrytech.com/xsl/xsl-list
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