Subject: Re: [xsl] format-number underspecified (Was: XSLT 1.1 comments from Steve Muench) From: Uche Ogbuji <uche.ogbuji@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:23:17 -0700 |
> > | is probably Uche; > is Steve Muench:\ > > | format-number() is another case in point of this. It causes *real* pain > | when an implementor has to find away to implement such an > | awkward mechanism when his language has perfectly useful, and far more > | mature, numerical formatting constructs. I bet you implemented > | format-number() in OracleXSL in ten minutes. It has taken the 4XSLT > | implementors a dreadful amount of work. > > >Oracle has both Java and C implementations. I did not hear the developers > >of our C implementation complaining about format-number(). They just > >implemented the behavior as noted in the spec. I missed this message, and apparently all others from yesterday when our ISP had a network blackout. This is in response to Steve Muench. You represent a company who tells everyone for miles around how you *saved* one billion dollars on your IT last year. Lord knows how much money you have to throw at developers who are happy to write whatever C code you ask them. I represent a tiny company who can't even get an ISP with a redundant Internet connection. I'm not talking to you WRT format-number() from speculation about what "the developers" experienced. I am telling you that with my own fingers I struggled with format-number() in C to put together an efficient implementation for 4Suite. Jeremy Kloth polished up the job, and between the two of us, we spent an inordinate amount of time considering other ways we could have provided the same functionality if the XSLT WG had not decided to off-load the whole matter to the Java spec. And Jeremy and I are good C programmers. I have about a decade of experience in the language. It all wouldn't be so bad if Java had some extraordinarily elegant and mature mechanism for numerical formatting, but Java's DecimalFormat stuff is very poorly designed and even more poorly specified. I did not set out to implement a bunch of Java quirks: I set out to implement an XSLT processor. If the W3C is proud of the fact that open-source authors implement their specifications, they will do very well to consider that few open-source authors have the resources of Oracle. -- Uche Ogbuji Principal Consultant uche.ogbuji@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx +1 303 583 9900 x 101 Fourthought, Inc. http://Fourthought.com 4735 East Walnut St, Ste. C, Boulder, CO 80301-2537, USA Software-engineering, knowledge-management, XML, CORBA, Linux, Python XSL-List info and archive: http://www.mulberrytech.com/xsl/xsl-list
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