Re: [xsl] XSLT 2 processors

Subject: Re: [xsl] XSLT 2 processors
From: Terence Kearns <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:09:05 +1000
Wow. Okay then. I guess it was fun while it lasted. I guess the
conditions aren't there anymore (for open source development of large

I guess Apache Cocoon's fate has gone the same way.

Personally, I think the volume of code cutters has increased, and the
percentage of "casual" coders has greatly incresed. XSLT 1.0 probably
couldn't get traction with casual coders who could only think
procedurally and it scared them off - leaving no perceivable demand
for the next XSLT interation from the code cutting masses. So the big
coding houses like IBM, Microsoft and Oracle have lost interest.
Personally, I think that's a shame. That XML is primarily useful as
high-level web service data packets (competing with JSON) is a
misconception. It might be the reality that this is how the market
sees it, but "the market is wrong" :-) Living proof that market forces
don't follow technical superiority.

Being a casual coder myself, I reckon if I was to return to
development, it would have to be Java all the way - just so I could
leverage Saxon - and keep my XML pipeline.

RIP my XML/PHP framework (for which my enthusiasm kinda died due to no
real XSLT2 support in PHP's roadmap).

...grateful for Saxon...

On 9 February 2012 22:34, Michael Kay <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Does anyone know if PHP has it?
>> Sadly, not yet (except via the Java bridge). No recent news from the LIBX*
>> project: Perhaps Steve Ball found
>> else to do with his weekends. I think the days of hobbyist implementations
>> of these technologies are past.
> This posting sort of sums it up:
> I don't think you can write an XSLT 2.0 processor and have an unrelated day
> job. Most of the coding for Saxon's XSLT 2.0 processor was done when I was
> employed by Software AG full time on standards work, and I was spending
> about half my time on the standards and half on Saxon, with the full
> encouragement of my employer. I think we can forget about this project
> unless it finds a sponsor.
> Michael Kay
> Saxonica

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