Subject: Re: GOTCHA! From: Guy_Murphy@xxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:56:08 +0000 |
Hi Oren. I fear, and I hope that I'm wrong, that we're going to watch such consideration sacrificed in the name of purity of intent. The fact of the matter is, that for some considerable time XSL is going to go to considerable use transforming XML to HTML, but I have already heard the chants that this doesn't fall within the scope of XSL consideration as it is after all only concerned with transforming XML to XML, and providing an XML vacab of formatting objects. Remeber, we're dealing with the group of people that thought with regard to HTML that if they chanted hard enough "frames don't exist, frames don't exist" that magically frames might disappear. Has anybody noticed that several companies (not just MS), have started using the term XTL (eXtensible Transformation Langauage), to describe XSL parser implimentations? I have even had a chap from Object Design using the terms XSL and XQL interchangably. Not quite as silly as it sounds, as the bit he was interested in was the patern matching. Anyhow, my point is that unless the W3C starts addressing the concerns and interests such as you outline, and of those in the industry that will be actually using XSL we are going to fall right into the same position with XSL as we did with HTML. That is several lead companies taking a look at W3C, shrugging and then carrying on with their own thing. Remember the W3C doesn't represent something like the rule of law, we sometimes forget that the only basis for anything the W3C comes up with ever being used is that people want to use it in the way the W3C lays out. If they don't, they wont. The W3C can shout all they want, "but we've done it the right way".... ::shrug:: Watch out for the term XTL, I think you are going to find it on the increase as companies increasingly get on with their own thing despite the W3C. Cheers Guy. xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on 01/13/99 07:25:28 PM To: xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx cc: (bcc: Guy Murphy/UK/MAID) Subject: Re: GOTCHA! [SNIP] Here's another point which presumably is well inside the intent. The current formatting objects are only capable of specifying a static document. In this day and age this is hardly sufficient. HTML has solved the problem by allowing embedded JavaScript code, and presumably the 'fo:' namespace will have to do so as well (this has nothing to do with embedding scripting inside the XSL stylesheet itself). [SNIP] Share & Enjoy, Oren Ben-Kiki XSL-List info and archive: http://www.mulberrytech.com/xsl/xsl-list XSL-List info and archive: http://www.mulberrytech.com/xsl/xsl-list
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