RE: why it is called a grove

Subject: RE: why it is called a grove
From: "Mason, James David (MXM) " <MXM@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 15:20:42 -0400
"Grove" is one of those historical things that just exists in the
terminology. You just have to live with it. It was hatched in the middle of
a discussion in a standards meeting (July 1985, Trinity College Dublin, if I
remember rightly), as a way of discussing a collection of trees. The formal
definition ("Graph Representation Of property ValuEs",
http://www.ornl.gov/sgml/wg8/docs/n1920/html/clause-3.html , Clause 3.36) is
something thought up afterwards, like the many explanations of CALS.

Jim Mason
Chairman, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC34

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Russell Steven Shawn O'Connor
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> Sent:	Wednesday, July 21, 1999 1:25 PM
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> Subject:	why it is called a grove
> 
> On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Frank A. Christoph wrote:
> 
> > Well, this is a silly thing to argue about, but, though there is
> undoubtedly
> > something to what you say, it does not sit well with the fact that the
> > non-technical meaning of "grove" is essentially a collection of trees,
> nor
> > that the term "tree" is used in the standard to refer to something
> > substantially more specific than "any rooted hierarchical data
> structure."
> > Besides, "grove" is a common enough word that it would be a poor choice
> to
> > name something so concrete and specific.
> 
> The fact that a grove could contain a collection of disjoint content trees
> is why it is called a grove.
> 
> See Note 453 of the HyTime Standard.
> <URL:http://www.ornl.gov/sgml/wg8/docs/n1920/html/clause-A.4.1.html#clause
> -A.4.1.5>
>  
> -- 
> Russell O'Connor                           roconnor@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <URL:http://www.undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca/%7Eroconnor/>
> ``And truth irreversibly destroys the meaning of its own message''
> -- Anindita Dutta, ``The Paradox of Truth, the Truth of Entropy''
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