How to unsubscribe (and other useful information)

Subject: How to unsubscribe (and other useful information)
From: DSSSList Owner <dssslist-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 23:08:22 -0400 (EST)
Made list names explicit in instructions on unsubscribing.  Trying out
a catchier subject line since it's not obvious that everybody reads
"Administrivia" messages
This information is posted to the DSSSList (and the DSSSList-Digest)
under the subject line "Administrivia" at regular intervals.  If the
details change between postings, the subject line is "Administrivia
-changed", otherwise the posting will be the same as the previous

 - Posting
 - Replies Go To The List
 - Quoting Messages in Replies
 - HTML Attachments
 - Cross-Posting
 - Daily Digest
 - Unsubscribing from DSSSList
 - Unsubscribing from the Digest
 - If you stop getting DSSSList messages
 - Archive
 - Archive Search
 - DSSSL Documentation Project
 - Reporting Bugs in Software
 - [OJ] and [OpenJade] in Subject Lines
 - "XS:" and "DD:" in Subject Lines
 - Further information on DSSSL
 - XSL-List -- The Open Forum on XSL
 - Contact


Only subscribers can post to DSSSList, and only from the address they
used when they subscribed.

There is no restriction on what may be posted provided it is related
to DSSSL.  Items related to XSL should be posted to the XSL-List.
When deciding between the two, consider if the item is of more
interest to those interested in DSSSL more than XSL or those
interested in XSL more than DSSSL.

Do not begin your subject line with "help" or "subscribe" since the
list software will bounce the message because it looks like is an
administrative request.

Do not use un-informative subject lines like "Urgent", "Easy
question", or "Problem".  Instead, use a meaningful subject line that
will make sense to the people whose help you are trying to get.

Both subscribers to DSSSList@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and subscribers to
DSSSList-Digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx should post their messages to
DSSSList@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, and the messages will be received by both
subscribers to the list and subscribers to the digest.

Do not start a new thread by replying to an unrelated message and just
changing the subject line since the header of your message will
contain references to the previous message and your new message will
appear in the archive as one of the replies to the original message.
It is better to start a new message for a new thread.


The reply address of DSSSList messages (and of digests) is
dssslist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx so REPLIES GO TO THE LIST BY DEFAULT.  If
you want to reply to just the author of a post, you should change the
"To:" field in your reply.


Please do not quote entire messages just to add a few lines at the
beginning or end.  Instead, quote the parts to which you are directly
replying or quote enough to establish the context.

Everybody on the list has already received the message that you are
quoting, and anyone searching the archive will find your message and
the previous message listed under the same thread.

Subscribers to the DSSSList will just ignore most of the quoted
messages and move to the next post, but subscribers to the DSSSList
Digest will mostly have to page past the quoted messages to reach the
next material in which they are interested in reading.


Please do not include HTML versions of your message or other
miscellaneous cruft as attachments to your post.  A small proportion
of list subscribers may be able to read your fancy text, but a larger
proportion won't, and the majority of subscribers to the DSSSList
Digest will have to scroll past your attachments to get to the next
part that they can read.


Cross-posting to the DSSSList and to another list, even to the
XSL-List, is often counter-productive unless everybody who replies to
the thread is on both lists.  Cross-posts from non-subscribers
continuing the thread will bounce, and DSSSList subscribers who are
not also on the other list will only see half of the thread, as will
those on the other list who are not also on the DSSSList.  Subscribers
to both lists will see two copies of the message, annoying them as


Daily digests -- copies of a whole days DSSSList messages (or a
100,000 character chunk, whichever comes first) sent as one email
message -- are available.  Not only is it one mail message containing
all of that day's DSSSList messages, it averages half the bytes of the
individual messages since it doesn't include the overhead of the mail
headers from each message.  To unsubscribe from the list and subscribe
to the digest, send mail to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx with the
following two lines as the body of your message:

unsubscribe dssslist
subscribe dssslist-digest


To unsubscribe from the DSSSList, send mail to
majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe dssslist" as the body of
your message.


To unsubscribe from the DSSSList Digest, send mail to
majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe dssslist-digest" as the
body of your message.


Ordinarily, mail bounces back to dssslist-owner only because a user's
account has been closed on their system without their unsubscribing
from the list.  If mail to an address bounces for an extended period,
that address may be removed from the list.

If you stop receiving DSSSList message, you may have been removed
because mail to you was bouncing.  You are not being picked on, and
you can just rejoin the list.


DSSSList messages up to July 1999 are archived at

DSSSList messages up to May 1998 are archived at

Efforts to bring the archive up to date are continuing.

The DSSSList mailbox file is available in six-month chunks at


A search facility for the DSSSList archive is available from the
archive pages.


The DSSSL documentation project is a collaborative effort by DSSSL
users to write and disseminate documentation on all aspects of DSSSL
for the purposes of:

 - introducing DSSSL to new users
 - education for both new and experienced users
 - assistance for people using DSSSL

The project draws on the combined experience of present users of
DSSSL, principally those subscribed to the DSSSList mailing list
(which also hosts the discussion between project participants).  You
are free to use the material produced by the documentation project,
and the project needs your contribution if it is to grow.



Bugs in software should firstly be reported to its author rather than
to the DSSSList.

[OJ] and [OpenJade] IN SUBJECT LINES

Subject lines beginning with [OJ] and [OpenJade] are related to the
development of OpenJade, the collaborative successor to James Clark's



Subject lines beginning with "XS: " in the archive are posts related
to the discussion of xml-style.  xml-style was a precursor to the
current XSL effort.  The appropriate place to discuss XSL is the
XSL-List.  See

Subject lines beginning with "DD: " are posts related to the DSSSL
documentation project.  See


Two excellent sources of information about DSSSL are the DSSSL section
of Robin Cover's SGML/XML Web Page at and James Clark's DSSSL
page at

The DSSSL Documentation Project is at

The OpenJade page is at

The DSSSL auto-faq is at


Mulberry Technologies also provides the XSL-List -- the open forum on
XSL.  For subscription information and the XSL-List archive, see


If you have any questions or problems, please contact

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