Subject: RE: support for 'macro' formatting languages From: Pieter Rijken <pieter.rijken@xxxxxx> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:01:37 +0100 
> > Norman Gray writes: > > > > > small part of the issue. The killer is how you write > the maths, and > > > I can't think of any SGMLonly solution to that. > > > > how do you think all the Elsevier journals work? they are fulltext > > SGML, with math > > I didn't doubt it, and I'm sure that works well for Elsevier. > What I'm > talking about is a solution that works for the author. > > > > of even slowing down. I am an SGML evangelist, but I know that I > > > would have to abandon any publisher that demanded I > submit maths in > > > anything other than LaTeX. > > > > Why don't you just plug a LaTeX to MathML translation into your tool > > set? thats what I would do. And don't say there aren't any, > please... > > What Elsevier (or whoever) plugs into _their_ toolset is none of my > business. MathML would probably be a better archival format > than LaTeX, I'm sure MathML is better is specifying the formula content, but that it is not good at getting formula's displayed correct. Has anyone ever tried to format a 6 page formula? (Please do not tell me that you can avoid this, believe me, in physics the resulting formula can be as large as 400 terms...... Splitting it up in 50 subexpressions so that each of them fits to one line does not solve anything.) Typing in the formula is not the problem in LaTeX. Within 15 to 20 minutes one has typed the entire formula in LaTeX. But figuring out how to split the formula across lines and keeping terms together in this process such that the displayed formula still is understandable. That is the real problem with formula's. This you cannot get right with SGML, MATHML and DSSSL. In such a case one has to know the formatting language (rtf, tex, etc.) and somehow specify in SGML what the formula should look like. Formatting instructions, architectural forms,..... pieter  Pieter Rijken Email: pieter.rijken@xxxxxx CMG Telecommunications and Utilities B.V. Division Advanced Technology Nieuwekade 119 P.O. Box 8038 Phone: +31 30 2339300 3503 RA Utrecht Fax: +31 30 2339495 The Netherlands  DISCLAIMER: This statement is not an official statement from, nor does it represent an official position of, CMG Telecommunications and Utilities B.V.  DSSSList info and archive: http://www.mulberrytech.com/dsssl/dssslist
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