Subject: Re: [jats-list] Journal meta: Multiple volumes From: "Randall, Laura (NIH/NLM/NCBI) [E] laura.randall@xxxxxxx" <jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 16:43:03 -0000 |
Thanks, Mike. Your message has actually created quite the internal conflict for me. I had originally dismissed <volume-id> because of the way the documentation describes handling the same situation with issue values. After reading your message, though, I'm believing more that this really is a volume identifier. It isn't an identifier in the typical modern-day understanding of something like, say, a DOI, but it really is an identifier of the volume. But since the recommended practice we have for capturing the issue equivalent of this isn't with <issue-id>, I'm torn. I'd like to be able to handle both pieces of information the same way but to do that I'd need either a model change or a documentation change. The documentation change would, of course, be easier, but I'd need to convince the current Standing Committee that the decision made by the previous NLM DTD Working Group needs to be revised...and I'm not even convinced myself. I appreciate the suggestion. Best, Laura ________________________ Laura Randall lrandall@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx NCBI/NLM/NIH From: Mike Eden meden@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 3:28 PM To: jats-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [jats-list] Journal meta: Multiple volumes Hi Laura, I see I'm late. I've seen cumulative issue number rolling through series and volumes. This does seem to be a thing of yesteryear. But to have the volume being presented like this as well is a bit special i think :-) Would <volume-id> and <issue-id> be considered tag abuse. ? Name or identifier (for example, DOI) that describes an entire volume. Name or identifier of an entire journal issue (for example, a DOI). The related element <issue><http://jats.nlm.nih.gov/publishing/tag-library/1.0/n-2rx0.html> records the published issue number of the journal. This <issue-id><http://jats.nlm.nih.gov/publishing/tag-library/1.0/n-dhx0.html> element is usually a more complex number, but a few publishers use the issue number plus a prefix or suffix as the issue identifier. Effectively the publisher at the time was providing a different conceptual id for the volume and issue, so does describe the volume and issue in a different way than the vol 1 issue 1 that it is within that series. In most cases we've seen like this the cumulative numbers have not been used in citations, but the series volume issue are declared. Regards Mike Eden From: "Randall, Laura (NIH/NLM/NCBI) [E] laura.randall@xxxxxxx<mailto:laura.randall@xxxxxxx>" <jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxx errytech.com>> To: "jats-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jats-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>" <jats-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jats-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>, Date: 05/06/2014 15:07 Subject: [jats-list] Journal meta: Multiple volumes ________________________________ Hello, all. I've come across a situation with a very old journal that appears to have more than one volume. A scan of the relevant page image is available here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6MQUWovAMjaVW1xQ1ZRbVZPSEk/edit?pli=1 This title periodically begins what it calls a "New Series" and the first issue published with "New Series" (left-hand side of the image) has No. 1, Vol. 1. It also publishes the cumulative issue number, in this case 1073. We have an example of that (from our last back issue scanning project, actually) and that's easily captured with <issue content-type="publication">17</issue> But what I don't know what to do with is the additional volume information provided. That volume is akin to the cumulative issue--in 1907, The Hospital was publishing its 62nd volume, but that particular issue was the first of the New Series. I'm hesitant to request that the JATS-SC consider making <volume> repeatable (in Green only, of course), but I'm not sure I see any non-custom-meta way around this. Has anyone else dealt with this kind of volume numbering? Does anyone have any ideas on how to capture it? Many thanks, Laura JATS-List info and archive<http://www.mulberrytech.com/JATS/JATS-List/> EasyUnsubscribe<-list/247966> (by email<>)
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