Re: [jats-list] history and pub-history events in JATS

["Alf Eaton eaton.alf@xxxxxxxxx" <jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

The last example in
https://jats.nlm.nih.gov/publishing/tag-library/1.2/element/pub-history.html
includes
both pre-publication and publication events, and that's what the original
request in
https://groups.niso.org/apps/group_public/view_comment.php?comment_id=663
asked
for, so that seems reasonable.

On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 at 13:05, Melissa Harrison m.harrison@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Thanks Laura
>
> So, reading around the tags made available in JATS at the same time I am
> going to assume <pub-history> is for publication event dates and
> descriptions unless anyone says that's wrong!
>
> Cheers
> M
>
>
> Melissa Harrison
> Head of Production Operations
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> On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 12:59 PM Randall, Laura (NIH/NLM/NCBI) [E]
> laura.randall@xxxxxxx <jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Tacking onto whatbs already been saidbthe request was to get the
>> BITS-defined <event> element into JATS and the committee opted to do that
>> by including the containing element (<pub-history>). So this is a direct
>> copy of the <pub-history> element from BITS, tag definition and all.
>>
>>
>>
>> The change reports are in the Tag Libraries (entry on left nav). Herebs
>> Greenbs:
>>
>>
>>
https://jats.nlm.nih.gov/archiving/tag-library/1.2/chapter/version-1.2-chg.ht
ml
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>>
>>
>> lar
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>>
>>
>> ________________________
>>
>> Laura Randall
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>> laura.randall@xxxxxxx
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>> NCBI/NLM/NIH
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>> *From:* Melissa Harrison m.harrison@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <
>> jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 12, 2019 7:56 AM
>> *To:* jats-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> *Subject:* Re: [jats-list] history and pub-history events in JATS
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Nikos and Alf
>>
>>
>>
>> However, I thought the pub in pub-history stood for publication?
>>
>> The JATS4R working group discussions resulted in a request to the
>> standing committee to allow for descriptions of publication events and so
I
>> thought that <event> in <pub-history> was for that purpose.
>>
>>
>>
>> I had wondered whether it was a copy/paste error in updating the
>> documentation...
>>
>>
>>
>> Can you direct me to the change history documentation (ie the document
>> that indicates updates to the most recent release), I cannot find it
>>
>>
>>
>> The new version of JATS is a long long way away :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Melissa
>>
>>
>>
>> Melissa Harrison
>>
>> Head of Production Operations
>>
>> Tel: +44 1223 855345
>>
>> http://elifesciences.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 12:43 PM Nikos Markantonatos nikos@xxxxxxxxxx <
>> jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> I think "history" and "pub-history" are among these tags that will be
>> straightened out when that non-backwards compatible JATS version gets
>> underway.
>>
>> Nikos
>>
>> On 6/12/19 2:34 PM, Alf Eaton eaton.alf@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> > It looks like both "history" and "pub-history" are for recording
>> > dates/events that aren't publication dates (which go in "pub-date"
>> > instead). The difference between the two is that "history" contains
>> > simple "date" elements, and "pub-history" contains more complex "event"
>> > elements.
>> >
>> > Alf
>> >
>> > On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 at 12:27, Melissa Harrison
>> > m.harrison@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:m.harrison@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > <jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > <mailto:jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     Hi there
>> >
>> >     Can anyone clarify some information in the documentation for JATS
>> >     because it is currently a bit confusing.
>> >
>> >     *<history>* is described as "Container element for dates related to
>> >     the processing history of the document (for example, received date,
>> >     accepted date)." and has the following remarks "Best Practice: The
>> >     dates inside the <history> element are used to *preserve events
>> >     other than publication date(s) in the life cycle of the article*."
>> >
>> >     *<pub-history> *is described as "Used as a container for events
>> >     related to the processing history of the document, such as the date
>> >     a manuscript was submitted, the reprint date for an article, etc."
>> >
>> >     I thought *<pub-history> *is a container for events related to the
>> >     processing publication history of the document, such as the date a
>> >     manuscript was submitted published as a preprint, published in
>> >     accepted manuscript form, the reprint date for an article, etc."
>> >
>> >     Thanks
>> >
>> >     Melissa
>> >
>> >
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