Subject: Re: Mozilla. Re: Netscape Support for XSL - client vs server rant From: Keith Visco <kvisco@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 14:53:23 -0700 |
Paul Tchistopolskii wrote: > > > and was left with no real library of base classes I could rely on. > > If you have not tried STLport - that was your and only your descision to > reinvent the wheel. I'm not complaining about having to reinvent the wheel, I apparently didn't make my argument clear. So I apologize for doing a bad job at expressing my thoughts...and no, i've never used STLport, nor do I have the desire to do so. > > > These people (the developers) won't get paid, they won't get any fame > > Some are paid No...not one is paid...I was referring to the people working on the XSLT module....which is the module in question...this is the XSLT list right? And the initial posting was complaining about the [lack] of XSLT support. > and some get quite a bit of fame only because they are > participating in something called 'free software'. Some are not only payed, > but also get a lot of fame. I fail to see anyone who is working on the XSLT module getting paid or any 'fame'. But that's also not very important. The point I was trying to make was that the initial posting was complaining about the [tardiness] in supporting the latest standards and recommendations, and in particular XSLT. The people working to support the XSLT spec in Mozilla are working on nights and weekends, and whenever they can to do just that....support XSLT, and I think complaining about how quickly they are working is foolish. If you think they are too slow...then do something about it...help out. *YOU* have the perfect opportunity to help. > There are many different kinds and reasons > why people are participating in 'free' software. Absolutely...the are many many reasons...and recognition and money are certainly part of them. And probably a good motivation for many Mozilla developers...but I am not talking about Mozilla as a whole...I am just referring to the XSLT module...and since I know everyone who is contributing to that module, I can tell you the motivation is simply to get a working XSLT processor inside of Mozilla. Nothing more, nothing less. > > I see. So now there are some brand new holy cows over there, called 'free' > software. ( To me - software is either good, or bad. No matter is it 'free' > or 'not' ). Great...you have two categories for software: Good and Bad. What does this have to do with my argument? Label it bad or good if you wish. Label it red, green, or blue. Why should I care? What bothered me is not labeling software bad or good. It's when you blame people, who are (regardless of _your_ assumptions) working hard on a project, for not working hard enough. > > Somehow you are participating in some marketing-driven attempt to > re-animate some heap of code produced by fulltime developers > who have left some company long time ago. This is your and only > your descision. > Paul...you are totally off the mark. The XSLT module was not part of Netscape Navigator. I am not trying to re-animate anything. You really aren't making much sense (at least to me) at all. > I don't understand why now nobody can even *touch* that monster. What are you talking about? This makes no sense (to me). > > Nobody is critisizing you. The statement was: > > Heather Lindsay wrote: > > The only ones you can blame are microsoft and mazilla for not being able to > > keep up with technology that changes every day (are we asking for too much?). > > Excuse me - what is wrong with this statement? I already told you...feel free to re-read my posting, and if I haven't presented my arguments clear enough then I apologize, but I don't know how else to express it. --Keith XSL-List info and archive: http://www.mulberrytech.com/xsl/xsl-list
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