Re: [xsl] W3C Specification of fn:filter() -- is this a bug in the document or in Saxon?

Subject: Re: [xsl] W3C Specification of fn:filter() -- is this a bug in the document or in Saxon?
From: "Dimitre Novatchev dnovatchev@xxxxxxxxx" <xsl-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 01:00:54 -0000
Because we are discussing "quality of work" in this thread (among other
things), here is a question:

Can anyone provide new tests to be added to the test suites? If so, how to
do this? Where is this described?

Thanks,
Dimitre

On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 5:31 PM Michael Kay mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx <
xsl-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
>
> On 12 Sep 2019, at 00:04, Liam R. E. Quin liam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <
> xsl-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2019-09-11 at 22:03 +0000, Dimitre Novatchev
> dnovatchev@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> Why on
> earth did they provide **this** implementation and not something
> better
>
>
> Two plausible reasons - the person who wrote it did so before some of
> the other XPath 3 features had settled down or been agreed upon, or,
> they simply didnt attach much importance to it.
>
>
> Sadly, I am unable to research an answer to historical questions, because
> I no longer have member access to W3C's archives.
>
> The likely reason, though, will be a negative: the spec is the way it is
> because no-one (either within or outwith the WG) saw a problem with it.
>
> In my years of doing standards work I was always impressed by the quality
> of scrutiny that proposals were subjected to. It's far higher than the
> level I have ever experienced with internal product specifications in any
> company I have worked for. Sometimes, indeed, it could be frustrating that
> we spent entire meetings discussing arcane edge cases. The quest for
> perfection results in incredibly slow progress getting specs completed. But
> the process is not perfect, and the resulting specifications are not
> perfect either. The main reason for that is simply resources: the longer a
> standards group carries on, the harder it becomes to persuade people to
> commit their time to it.
>
> Frankly, if this is the biggest problem that people can find, then we did
> a remarkably good job.
>
> Michael Kay
> Saxonica
>
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Dimitre Novatchev
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