RE: [stella] VCS C programming

Subject: RE: [stella] VCS C programming
From: mathys66@xxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 16:11:13 -0400

Has anybody ever heard of or even looked at cm65 ?
(I don't really know it, especially I don't know how much target specific
stuff is hardbaked into the compiler and thus how hard it would be to generate
binaries for any other targets than those originally intended by the author)


>-- Original-Nachricht --
>From: Ben Larson <benjamin_e_larson@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: stella@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [stella] VCS C programming
>Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 15:13:59 -0400
>Reply-To: stella@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Hey everyone, long time no see (or talk rather).
>I know this has been brought up in past on the list,
>and the general consensus is that programming using a
>C compiler wouldn't work, due to the nature of
>kernels, but I thought I might resurrect the idea with
>a slightly different twist and get some input.
>But firsly, I might also add that abstraction is kind
>of one of my interests in computer science, which is
>the main reason I'm interested in this, since it's
>such a challenge with the VCS.
>With that said, I guess what I kind of envision is
>something very low level, building on what Adam
>Wozniak did in the past with the CC65 compiler - i.e.
>basically using C structs to represent the TIA and
>RIOT.  My idea is to perhaps add to this with some
>general structs and unions to represent player
>objects, missiles, ball in RAM; some #defines to
>represent bitmask constants for various operations;
>and a bunch of macros for routine operations.  Kernels
>for experienced people would still be in ASM.  Noobs
>could use C to write simple kernels and get their feet
>I perceive that the possible benefits of this would be
>faster development (due to the availability of
>higher-level programming constructs), easier to read
>code, and more people interested in the hobby. 
>Possible drawbacks, of course, would be that the
>non-kernel code might not be quite as efficient, or
>that lots of crappy games would be made by noobs. :)
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