Re: [jats-list] Media reference

Subject: Re: [jats-list] Media reference
From: Mike Eden <meden@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:47:03 +0000
Jeff, thank you for this. Wish I had read before replying to Rebecca.
I think using <fig> in this case would probably be preferable and the concept
of an audible figure sort of works.
Thanks
Mike Eden


----- Original Message -----
From: "Beck, Jeff (NIH/NLM/NCBI) [E]" [beck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 11/02/2013 16:23 GMT
To: "jats-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <jats-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [jats-list]  Media reference



Hi Mike,

I'm not sure if this is a case where we don't have enough elements to
correctly cover your situation, or we have too many elements already and
you have a new application that makes us a little uncomfortable to extend
one of the existing ones.

In JATS we have four elements that handle general article-level objects of
interest: figure, table-wrap, boxed-text, and supplementary-material. They
are all used to hold some named thing and the text that is associated with
it. The models are the same or very similar:

There is some name of the thing (<label>), and associated <caption> with a
<title> and text (para-level elements).

There is the thing of interest - usually <graphic> or <media> in <fig>,
<table> in <table-wrap>, section-level content in <boxed-text>, and
generally <media> in <supplementary-material>. But what's in it doesn't
define what it is. We see figures with just text or lists, tables with
graphics or just lists, and nearly anything in <boxed-text>.

I suppose if we were starting fresh, we'd make an <article-level-object>
element with this model and type them as figure, table, audio object, etc.
But much of JATS is based on existing tagging practice, and we inherited
these named article-level objects.

But <graphic> can exist in body text. This is important to remember when
you think about the difference between a figure and simply an image.
Perhaps we need a <media-object> element added to the list of existing
article level objects of interesting things that would do the same thing
for <media> that <fig> does for <graphic>, but the model will wind up
being the same, I would imagine.


I'd say for your sound file, make the decision the same way you would
decide between tagging a full-blown figure and a <graphic> in the flow of
the body text. If you want to name it (Audio 1), or give it a title, or
caption, then tag it as a <fig> with a @fig-type="audio" or some other
indicator.

<fig fig-type="audio" id="azr24a">
  <label>Audio 1</label>
  <caption>
    <title>Speech speech!</title>
    <p>text about the speech</p>
  </caption>
  <media .../>
</fig>

I apologize for all of the philosophizing at the beginning of the message.

Jeff


On 2/11/13 8:36 AM, "Mike Eden" <meden@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>Hi
>I'm having trouble deciding how to code a media sound file  that is not
>supplementary material. This is for an online only title that has
>reference to sound file (speech).  <xref> attribute ref-type does not
>include "media" or anything similar. "other" seems to be a bit loose.
>Also
>
>it is strange that there is no over arching grouping element for this
>kind
>
>of stand alone media. Do other users of JATS code these within <fig> (and
>consider it an "audible" figure)?  If so then presumably one could use
>fig-type="sound-file" or fig-type="media".
>I'd very much appreciate thoughts on this.
>
>
>Mike Eden
>
>Operations Manager
>Content Services
>Cambridge University Press
>Cambridge CB2 8RU
>U.K.
>+44 (0)1223 326435

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