Re: jade/docbook/norm walsh's stylesheets upgrade?

Subject: Re: jade/docbook/norm walsh's stylesheets upgrade?
From: Norman Walsh <norm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 14:22:16 -0500
"Thomas G. Lockhart" <lockhart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> 
> These docs make extensive use of tables, and the Norm Walsh v0.89 style
> sheets I am using do not support tables in html and put table items in
> the wrong places for tex/postscript (e.g. header rows are placed at the
> bottom, right above footer rows).

The recent large-scale changes to the table code were to provide better
support for vertically spanning entries.  If your tables have a lot of
those, they will work better with the latest versions.

If your tables don't use horizontal or vertical spans, I would expect
them to work in 0.89, but I'm still gonna recommend that you upgrade
before telling me that they don't work ;-)

If they still don't work, please let me know.

> So, I would like to upgrade the stylesheets to the v0.9x versions from
> Norm, which mention that table support has been updated. My problem is
> that in v0.9 the html and tex sheets need to go into different
> directories, whereas the old style sheets can coexist in the same
> directory.

Yes.  This is a feature.

> So, do some catalogs, which are _not_ supplied with the style sheets,
> need to get updated? If so, which ones? 

The stylesheets all use system identifiers with relative paths.
You don't need a catalog for the stylesheets.  You do need a
catalog for the DocBook DTD (and Jade), but upgrading
DocBook stylesheets has no effect on that.

> Also, Norm's web page makes
> mention of nsgmlsu, which is not on my system; I assume it is not
> equivalent to nsgmls, which _is_ in the packages.

If you look in the Jade directory, you'll see that it's
nsgmlsu.exe that's distributed with Jade.  But the stylesheets
don't use it, those sections of the web pages are just "getting
started" instructions. (And I guess I need to improve them ;-)

> Does anyone have some hints or suggestions on the best way for me to
> proceed? Perhaps there is another place I can look for this information,
> but I haven't found it. I'm reluctant to start ripping apart a
> working-but-not-sufficient installation without a few more clues.
> Unfortunately, Cygnus did not respond to any of my followup questions,
> so I don't know what their timeframe is for RPM updates.

Um, you should be able to install the new stylesheets in a different
place on your system and then use 

  jade -d /wherever/you/put/em/print/docbook.dsl

to test it.  If you have trouble, let me know.

> These RPMs use jade/1.0.1, jadetex/0.51, and Norm Walsh's v0.89 style
> sheets. The packages put all style sheets into the same directory
> (/usr/lib/sgml/stylesheets/).

Yeah, I didn't make those RPMs.  I guess I'd suggest

  /usr/lib/sgml/stylesheets/jade/docbook/

as the destination for the Jade DocBook stylesheets, but it's up
to you.

--norm

P.S. I haven't tried JadeTeX in a long time.  Does anyone with
more experience have any comments?



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