RE: About XML to multiple language/multiple outputs

Subject: RE: About XML to multiple language/multiple outputs
From: "Didier PH Martin" <martind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:02:52 -0400
Hi Sebastian,

Didier PH Martin said:
 > a) XML-dev a presentation about the OpenJade project, its collaborators,
 > what's happening now, and some reflections about the next DSSSSL-2
 > specifications.

Sebastian said:
Much as I applaud all this work on Open Jade, I too am uneasy about
the way "DSSSL-2" seems to be gaining some kind of life of its
own. I think a clear distinction should be made between

+ OpenJade, a new product based on Clark's Jade, implementing DSSSL
  better and better
+ OpenJade extensions to DSSSL, like Clark's extensions (which are
  clearly necessary)

- A revision of DSSSL
- A unnamed DSSSL-like language

I really do not think an unchartered group should abrogate to itself
the ISO DSSSL  name, and start calling an extended language DSSSL-2.

we have probably been here before. it just makes me uneasy,
politically. direct action is not justified at this point.

Didier says:
Don't worry even if some do not make these distinctions I do.

Also, the actual Document Description and Processing Languages ISO chapter
is mandated to handle the DSSSL future. And, do not worry about hijackers, I
am a member of the CAC/ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC34 committee and I intent to follow
the rules and procedures of my committee and of my ISO chapter as well.

If you want to check if this chapter is accredited for DSSSL work just look
at the following link:
http://infoseek.go.com/?win=_search&sv=M6&lk=noframes&nh=10&ud9=IE5&qt=ISO&o
q=&url=http%3A//lcweb.loc.gov/loc/standards/isotc46/&ti=ISO/TC46/SC4+Home+Pa
ge&top=

James Mason, said not too far ago (and I said that in my messages if you
have read them well) that several countries expressed their interest to
continue the DSSSL efforts. These are:
USA
Japan
Canada.

More particularly ken and me expressed the will to present a draft
specifications to our fellow ISO colleagues for discussion, amendments,
approvals or for more formal work with other commitees.

James Mason also called for action from members of this list to be part of
the process by joining their local ISO committees so that their knowledge
and wisdom about DSSSL could enrich the ISO process.

James Mason, Ken Holman or me can help you find the right person to
communicate with in your local country representant so that you could be
part of the ISO DSSSL-2 process.

This has nothing to do with a command line switch or about the DSSSL-2
extended features. I cannot understand why you said that???

What I am doing is:
a) improving OpenJade as an OpenJade team member (Do not forget that James
also worked in the implementation in addition to work actively on the specs
and the ISO activities - So, it is allowed by ISO to work on an
implementation and also participate to ISO activities. It is even probably
better, because at least the knowledge is grounded in realities).
b) working toward a draft proposal as a first base for future specifications
work.

I do not mix these two activities and be re-assured on my mental health. I
can make the difference.

So Sebastian, I really, but really do not understand your comments. Re-read
the messages, you missed something important.

regards
Didier PH Martin
mailto:martind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://www.netfolder.com


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dssslist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-dssslist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Sebastian Rahtz
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 12:05 PM
To: dssslist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: About XML to multiple language/multiple outputs


Didier PH Martin writes:
 > a) XML-dev a presentation about the OpenJade project, its collaborators,
 > what's happening now, and some reflections about the next DSSSSL-2
 > specifications.

Much as I applaud all this work on Open Jade, I too am uneasy about
the way "DSSSL-2" seems to be gaining some kind of life of its
own. I think a clear distinction should be made between

+ OpenJade, a new product based on Clark's Jade, implementing DSSSL
  better and better
+ OpenJade extensions to DSSSL, like Clark's extensions (which are
  clearly necessary)

- A revision of DSSSL
- A unnamed DSSSL-like language

I really do not think an unchartered group should abrogate to itself
the ISO DSSSL  name, and start calling an extended language DSSSL-2.

we have probably been here before. it just makes me uneasy,
politically. direct action is not justified at this point.

Sebastian


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