Subject: Re: [jats-list] Re: [JATS-List:] Preprint DOI handling From: "Owens, Evan evan.owens@xxxxxxxxxx" <jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 16:35:58 -0000 |
Hi Bruce, Thanks for the follow up information from Ed Pentz and clarification on this issue. Not mentioned at the Crossref annual meeting session. So this is about the content distinction between pre-publication and publication rather than just about linking from pre-print sites to publisher sites. A good enhancement to the citation process. And more revenue for Crossref. In the early CHORUS discussions about publishers posting the accepted manuscript for public access and having both AM and VOR on their websites, Geoff Bilder of Crossref proposed that those be separate DOIs. Publishers weren't keen on that because they were using a single landing page for each article with links to the different versions based on accessibility status (e.g., subscribes got access to VOR and public got access to AM). And it wasn't obvious how to register this with Crossref then. But sounds like it now would be possible. Evan From: Bruce Rosenblum bruce@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 11:18 AM To: jats-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; jats-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Caroline Webber Subject: Re: [jats-list] Re: [JATS-List:] Preprint DOI handling Hi Evan, I had an email exchange with Ed Pentz about this two weeks ago. The new CrossRef policy (and I quote from his email) is: "Crossref's policy is that the version of record should definitely have a separate DOI from the working paper/preprint form. As you say, the working paper form will have been cited and anyone following the citation should go to what was cited. Of course, the working paper should make it clear that there is a version of record/new version and have a prominent link to it. The working paper/preprint and version of record are two different citable items whether [the same publisher] publishes both or they are published by different publishers. If they have the same DOI it messes up the citation record" The bold is my addition. Just to be clear, the context of my original question to Ed was whether there should be a new DOI even if the version of record is then published by the same publisher who publishes the pre-print. I thought that case might be different, but Ed's answer was that it is not different and there should still be two DOIs It was in the context of this new policy that I provided the guidance to Caroline, i.e. separate DOIs for the pre-print and final, and use related-article to reference the pre-print from the final. In this context, then the only question is what's the appropriate attribute value for related-article-type Bruce At 11:05 AM 2/18/2016, Owens, Evan evan.owens@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:evan.owens@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi Caroline, At the Crossref annual meeting last November the session on DOIs for Preprints said that this was about allowing preprint sites to register a DOI separately from the publisher\x92s DOI for the published article and then how to track the relationship between the two DOIs in Crossref metadata. In the past preprints were not allowed to be registered with Crossref. Is this customer question actually about preprint services (something completely separate from journal publication)? Is the customer posting all submissions as preprints, separate from what is accepted? Or is about the publisher posting the accepted manuscript and calling it a \x93preprint\x94? If the publishers is posting the accepted manuscript then replacing it with the published version of record, that would not require separate DOI. Would the version that this customer is posting still be online after the published article is online? The other new Crossref feature coming soon is to allow publishers to register the DOI at acceptance and before publishing (making it available online); that is entirely new functionality. This was described as to support having DOIs in press releases announcing an article before publication and to support tracking funding info at acceptance rather than at publication. Evan Owens VP Publishing Technologies, Cenveo Publisher Services 2905 Byrdhill Road, Richmond VA 23228 Office: (804) 515-5146 Mobile: (804) 380-3350 From: Caroline Webber cwebber@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cwebber@xxxxxxxxxxxx> [ mailto:jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 10:25 AM To: jats-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jats-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: Caroline Webber Subject: [jats-list] [JATS-List:] Preprint DOI handling Hi all, How should preprint DOI\x92s be tagged in the JATS? We have a customer who is going to start posting preprints early in the process, and our understanding is that CrossRef is now (or soon) requiring a separate \x93preprint DOI\x94. I had a thought tagging it like this: <article-id pub-id-type="preprint-doi">. However, I discussed this with Bruce, and he had an alternate suggestion: For the transmittal of the preprint article, use <article-id pub-id-type="doi">, and then for the transmittal of the final article related to the preprint, tag the preprint as a <related-article>. However, he pointed out that there are currently no attributes for related-article-type that fit the bill (currently the related-article-type values are suggested as \x93addendum\x94, \x93commentary\x94, \x93commentary-article\x94, \x93companion\x94, etc). Should we consider adding \x93preprint\x94 to the list of suggested attribute values? 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