Re: [jats-list] Does Blue need a Lite version, to counter its creeping aquafication?

["Imsieke, Gerrit, le-tex gerrit.imsieke@xxxxxxxxx" <jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Pieter,

Thank you very much for your efforts!

I have converted your list into the format that Nina's analysis expects 
(see https://github.com/nreinhar/JATS_Customizing_Analysis/pull/7).

(continued below)

On 21.02.2021 08:40, Pieter Lamers pieter.lamers@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Hi Gerrit,
>
> That's a nice Sunday morning exercise. I wrote the following xquery to 
> summarize the fulltext articles:
>
> xquery version '3.1';
>
> let $coll as item()+ := collection('/db/data/journals.benjamins.com/')[article/body] (: requirement for 'body' is to leave out metadata-only records :)
> let $article-count := count($coll)
>
> return
>   <articles count="{$article-count}">{
>       for $element-group in $coll//*
>       group by $namespace := $element-group/node-name() => prefix-from-QName()
>       return
>       <elements>{
>       if( exists($namespace) ) then attribute prefix { $namespace } else (),
>       for $element in $element-group
>       group by $element-name := $element/local-name()
>       order by $element-name
>       return
>         element { $element-name } {
>           for $attribute in $element/@*
>           group by $attribute-name := $attribute/local-name()
>           order by $attribute-name
>           return
>             attribute { $attribute-name } { count($attribute) },
>           count($element)
>         }
>     }</elements>
>   }</articles>
>
> I added counts as the attribute/element text value because it shows the 
> extent of use for each element/attribute. Please note that we use Green 
> (1.1) rather than Blue because of Blue's ordering restrictions in 
> references and other things we really needed (forgot which).B  I 

No problem at all. The Science Open input is also based on Green.

> abstracted away from namespace prefixes in attribute names. It results 
> in the following:

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> I hope this is of help.

Yes, absolutely.

Thanks again,

Gerrit


> All the best,
> Pieter
> On 18/02/2021 13:11, Imsieke, Gerrit, le-tex gerrit.imsieke@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > Dear Mark,
> >
> > Thank you so much for taking the time to run the analysis and for 
> > filing the pull request.
> >
> > We will try to reproduce, using the cache files that you sent, under 
> > which circumstances the division by zero occurs. Then we'll see 
> > whether there is something else that we should do about it or whether 
> > your fix addresses the problem without distorting the results.
> >
> > To all others that submitted files to Nina already: Thank you, too!
> >
> > To everyone else who sits on tons of JATS and hasnbt sent anything 
> > yet: There's still 10 days left to put something together.
> >
> > Gerrit
> >
> > On 18.02.2021 12:07, DUNN, Mark wrote:
> > > Dear Gerrit and Nina,
> > >
> > > I am happy to try and help with this project and I wish you both 
> > > every success.
> > >
> > > OUP is unable to supply the JATS XML unfortunately, but I've been 
> > > able to run the pipeline over a representative sample (with a small 
> > > fix which I've put into my Git fork) to produce some statistics.
> > >
> > > The output report and cache for 176 articles across our subject areas 
> > > are attached. The articles are all from the last 2 years of publishing.
> > >
> > > If you would like more, please let me know. OUP publishes in all the 
> > > areas you are looking at (STEM, HUM, ECON) so if you need more from a 
> > > particular area, I'll be happy to get some.
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > > Mark Dunn
> > > Lead Content Architect, Oxford University Press
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Imsieke, Gerrit, le-tex gerrit.imsieke@xxxxxxxxx 
> > > <jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: 16 February 2021 17:13
> > > To: jats-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Cc: nina_linn.reinhardt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [jats-list] Does Blue need a Lite version, to counter its 
> > > creeping aquafication?
> > >
> > > Dear JATS Community,
> > >
> > > As announced in a previous message to this list [1], Nina Reinhardt 
> > > is currently working on her master's thesis in which she tries to 
> > > find a consensus customization for the (estimated) 90% of JATS users 
> > > that only need about half of Blue's available elements and attributes.
> > >
> > > My role in this is that I am co-supervising the thesis and that I 
> > > came up with the idea after another discussion on this list last 
> > > year, in which Tommie suggested that "a dozen different people (or 
> > > small groups) each craft[ed] a 'JATS Lite' and we compare[d] them" [2].
> > >
> > > This was our first idea: To provide a form with a list of available 
> > > elements and attributes, and people would be able to put together 
> > > their favorite Lite customization interactively.
> > >
> > > But then we thought that we should also offer a way for people to 
> > > upload representative JATS content from their production or 
> > > repositories and treat these collections as expressions of tagging 
> > > preferences, or as "de-facto customizations". And then she skipped 
> > > the interactive form part and focused entirely on analyzing these 
> > > collections and which metrics are applicable to them in order to 
> > > identify consensus customizations.
> > >
> > > Nina has written a paper in which she describes her approach and what 
> > > is needed to find this lean consensus customization (your data!):
> > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jYDT0TkYP9Tg31Ldd9gFmdwSiu98Q2mg_qOuhgnxpRc/ 
> > >
> > >
> > > You may skip most technical discussions for the time being and 
> > > navigate right to the last section called "Data Collection". It is a 
> > > call to action that asks you to donate some of your valuable JATS 
> > > files to research. Or you can use some XSLT [3] in order to extract 
> > > element/attribute name lists from the JATS files yourselves so you 
> > > need not send potentially proprietary data to someone else.
> > >
> > > Please donate generously, and if possible do it by March 1st. Nina's 
> > > thesis needs to be completed by June.
> > >
> > > You are allowed to add comments and suggestions to the Google doc, 
> > > you may of course file issues and pull requests in the Github repo, 
> > > and you can contact Nina and/or me via this list or direct email 
> > > messages if you have questions or suggestions.
> > >
> > > On behalf of Nina (and myself),
> > >
> > > Gerrit
> > >
> > > [1]
> > > https://www.biglist.com/lists/lists.mulberrytech.com/jats-list/archives/202009/msg00019.html 
> > >
> > > [2]
> > > https://www.biglist.com/lists/lists.mulberrytech.com/jats-list/archives/202004/msg00030.html 
> > >
> > > [3] https://github.com/nreinhar/JATS_Customizing_Analysis/
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