Subject: Re: [jats-list] JATS - Gripes and Suggestions From: "Tommie Usdin btusdin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 20:48:20 -0000 |
I wonder what would happen if a dozen different people (or small groups) each crafted a "JATS Lite" and we compared them. It might be that there would be enough consensus on what should and should not be there that we could discuss only the places where there was substantial disagreement. (Or, we might find that there is no consensus at all, and that would be interesting, too.) b Tommie > On Apr 29, 2020, at 4:41 PM, Latterner, Martin (NIH/NLM/NCBI) [C] latternm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I like where this is going! > > I could go even further and give up on certain types of information. I could live happily without <contributed-resource-group> . And <alternatives> is really, really difficult to deal with, I find. > > I have been dreaming of "JATS Lite" - a version that meets 90% of the needs of 90% of the JATS user community. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tommie Usdin btusdin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 4:33 PM > To: jats-list <jats-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [jats-list] JATS - Gripes and Suggestions > > I think "a version that allows everything (all information) now in Blue, but only one sensible way to do each" might be a good characterization of what Orange should become. It would meet the original goals of an authoring model and be useful in other contexts where all the variety in Blue and Pumpkin are harmful rather than helpful. > > b Tommie > > >> On Apr 29, 2020, at 4:21 PM, Denise French dfrenchlibrary@xxxxxxxxx <jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> With that encouragement, I'll go further. We should have a version that allows everything (all information) now in Blue, but only one sensible way to do each. And if a user "needs" a different way to do it they should use a different version. Make one "clean" one and hold the line on softeneing it. Just expand for new types of informations. >> >> Denise >> >> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 3:32 PM Beck, Jeff (NIH/NLM/NCBI) [E] beck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Denise, >> >> I want to thank you for your Gripey Suggestion. The JATS Standing Committee gets so many requests to 'loosen up just one thing in Blue' and we very rarely hear your side from users. >> >> It is good to hear from the Anti-Greenificationists. >> >> Jeff >> >> >> >> From: Denise French dfrenchlibrary@xxxxxxxxx <jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 3:19 PM >> To: jats-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <jats-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Subject: [jats-list] JATS - Gripes and Suggestions >> >> Stop watering down Blue! We *need* an article tag set with some bones. It is *helpful* to be able to require normal ordinary things like sections have titles. As Blue becomes more Green it becomes squishier and squishier -- and less valuable. >> >> Or, perhaps, declare that war lost, make Blue just like Green, and invent a new JATS color with built-in sensible rules for those of us who want help keeping our articles rational and don't want to dedicate a programmer to writing schematron to enforce rules that should be in the DTD! >> >> Denise >> JATS-List info and archive >> EasyUnsubscribe (by email) >> JATS-List info and archive >> EasyUnsubscribe (by email) >> JATS-List info and archive >> EasyUnsubscribe (by email)
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