Subject: Re: [xsl] Re: XML / XSL Editors From: António Mota <amsmota@xxxxxxxxx> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:26:47 +0000 |
My main concern by now is the data-entry and visualization capabilites, cause from the development point-of-view i'm satisfied with jEdit, except for the fact that it hasn't a xslt debugger. Offcourse the price matters, i don't know what is my boss budegt for that, but considering what he pays me it shouldn't be much... ;) I think around some 500b,, limiting the choices between 1 expensive editor or 4/5 of the others, or some kind of conbination of those. I've allready concluded my tests on three editors, i have three more to go. I'll post my conclusions then, maybe it's usefull for the archive... On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 01:36:23 -0700, M. David Peterson <m.david.x2x2x@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I'll second that. While Oxygen is a fantastic tool and for the price > its tough to beat, Stylus Studio is a pretty amazing combination of > tools. The price difference is something that has to be considered. > But I have no idea what your budget is so its tough to say if this is > even an option. Still, MHK doesnt make statements unless he truly > stands behind them and has reached his opinions based on experience. > So if he makes a statement like this I would pay attention. > > > On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:37:31 -0000, Michael Kay <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > You ought to include Stylus Studio in your list as well. I use it for most > > of my XML editing; I particularly like the ability to validate using > > different schema processors, since it's not uncommon to get differences > > between them. The grid view in the latest version works very well for > > data-oriented XML - I've always hated grid views in the past, but this one > > starts to feel as easy to use as a spreadsheet. I also like the way it shows > > XPath query results. I don't tend to use Stylus for XSLT work, but that's > > only because my requirements in that area are rather specialized... > > > > Michael Kay > > http://www.saxonica.com/ > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: AntC3nio Mota [mailto:amsmota@xxxxxxxxx] > > > Sent: 10 January 2005 20:24 > > > To: xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: Re: [xsl] Re: XML / XSL Editors > > > > > > Well, uptil now i've been testing XMLSpy, oXygen and Exchanger. Here's > > > my toughts and request for comments: > > > > > > XMLSpy is realy a heavy-weight, it seems to do everything. Too many > > > things... And it's a lot expensive than the others, so the choice is > > > to buy one XMLSpy or 4/5 of the others... And i really don't like > > > mainstream software, reflexes of my revolutionary youth :) > > > > > > I was tending to oXygen due to the positive mentions here on list. It > > > seems very good from the developer point of view, i really like that > > > trang thing, specially from learning the various languages by > > > converting one into another. HOWEVER it seems not so good from the > > > non-XSL-expert data-entry point of view. There's only the Tree Editor > > > that seems to me both confusing and hard to work. And this data-entry > > > thing is important. > > > > > > Exchanger seems to be a lot better. I really like the way one can > > > create types (XML/Schema pieces) and then edit them. That's that what > > > i had in mind since the beggining, and i didnB4t find the way to do it > > > in the other editors (not that don't exist, i just couldn't find it). > > > And i really like that Outliner/Editor/Tree Viewer for the data entry > > > thing. It seems to me a good balance beteween development capabilities > > > and data-entry facilities. > > > > > > So i'll like to ear some comments from you guys, besides "then go with > > > Exchanger if you liked it", mainly because i ddidnB4t test *that* much > > > and i'm probably missing something around the way... > > > > > > Thanks, and excuse the bad english... > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 12:30:47 -0500, Wendell Piez > > > <wapiez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Hi Antonio, > > > > > > > > At 11:59 AM 1/6/2005, you wrote: > > > > >Also, i had a look at Relax NG but didn't understand what it is. It > > > > >seems a alternative to Schema? A replacement for DTD? > > > However it's not > > > > >a W3C standard, or is it? > > > > > > > > The question is off-topic :->, but yes, all the above. > > > > > > > > It's not a W3C standard, but it is an ISO standard -- in > > > some circles, this > > > > is regarded as better. > > > > > > > > >Last, someone off the list point me to XMLEditor from Cladonia > > > > >http://www.cladonia.com/index.htm does anybody know this? > > > > > > > > Haven't tried this one lately, but from what I saw back > > > when, I think > > > > you'll find it more like oXygen than like Authentic. > > > > > > > > Lightweight forms interfaces are a bit slow to come, > > > largely because there > > > > are so many other ways to go about it. (Web forms work if > > > you have the > > > > architecture in place. Spreadsheets can even work these > > > days.) And platform > > > > issues. I wonder if there are any XForms front ends you > > > could use. Or > > > > Microsoft's InfoPath (quite a nice product, I'm told), if > > > you can afford > > > > the cost/lock-in.... > > > > > > > > Good luck, > > > > Wendell > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ====================================================================== > > > > Wendell Piez > > > mailto:wapiez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Mulberry Technologies, Inc. > > > http://www.mulberrytech.com > > > > 17 West Jefferson Street Direct Phone: > > > 301/315-9635 > > > > Suite 207 Phone: > > > 301/315-9631 > > > > Rockville, MD 20850 Fax: > > > 301/315-8285 > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Mulberry Technologies: A Consultancy Specializing in SGML and XML > > > > > > > ====================================================================== > > > > > > -- > <M:D/> > > :: M. David Peterson :: > XML & XML Transformations, C#, .NET, and Functional Languages Specialist
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