Subject: Re: [xsl] XSLT 1.0 support in browsers, as of June 2008 From: Robert Koberg <rob@xxxxxxxxxx> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 07:34:57 -0400 |
Hi, Why do you want static content transformed in the browser? I think I found the o;?rfc2629.xslt here: http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/rfc2629xslt/rfc2629.xslt I would bet your Opera problems are because it (still) does not support the document function. best, -Rob On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 10:04 +0200, Julian Reschke wrote: > (this updates a summary I sent one year ago with the latest browser > releases) > > Hi, > > recently, I hear the claim "XML on the web has failed" a lot. In > particular, in the context of the HTML5 proposal worked on in the WHATWG > WG, backed by Apple/Mozilla/Opera. > > Of course, this is not really true. A lot of XML is being exchanged > through HTTP, be it in XML-RPC & SOAP (gasp), WebDAV, or RSS and Atom. > > It seems that most of the time people are referring to the support of > XML in the browser, mainly with respect to XHTML (which indeed is a > failure so far due to the fact that IE doesn't support it), and > client-side XSLT. > > There are several ways to do client-side XSLT, one of which is through > the xml-stylesheet processing instruction. For a long time, that worked > only in IE, but nowadays support in Firefox, Opera and Safari is getting > better. In fact, it has become so good that it can *almost* be used > portably. > > The purpose of this mail is to document the current shortcomings of the > implementations, as experienced by me supporting rfc2629.xslt (the > RFC2629 XML format is used in the IETF for formatting Internet Drafts > and RFCs). My experience is that it's incredibly hard to do complex > stuff without either XSLT 1.1 (not finished), XSLT 2.0, or at least XSLT > 1.0 + node-set extension function, therefore I'm looking at the node-set > support as well... > > > (1) Internet Explorer (MSXML) > > - It does implement msxsl:node-set, but it would be *really* great if it > would also do exslt:node-set, which is supported by Opera and Firefox 3. > Putting in special cases just for IE really is a pain. (*) > > 2008-06: we've got a solution to that one (thanks to David Carlisle): > <http://dpcarlisle.blogspot.com/2007/05/exslt-node-set-function.html> > > - IE suffers from an IMHO bad decision to strip out whitespace before > passing the XML document to the XSLT processor (see > <http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms760265.aspx>). I understand > that Microsoft can't simple change that without breaking deployed > content, but it would be *really* cool if one could "opt out" of that > behavior somehow (PI at the start of the document???). > > Summary: good, but room for improvement > > > (2) Firefox > > - Works ok (although slow compared to IE), except for the lack of > exslt:node-set, which will be fixed in Firefox3. > > Summary: will be good in next release > > 2008-06: Firefox 3 ships, and exslt:node-set works finally. > > > (3) Opera > > - Has been improving a lot, and also has exslt:node-set since 9.2 (?), > but the current release unfortunately aborts with a fatal error upon > complex XPath expressions. Right now unusable for rfc2629.xslt (see > <http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/rfc2629xslt/rfc2629xslt.html#opera>). > > Summary: please fix this, and your XSLT rocks. > > 2008-06: Opera 9.5 fixes this, but introduces a new bug (CSS not being > applied to transformation result). Opera bug 337388. > > > (4) Safari (and WebKit?) > > - I had no opportunity to test lately, but AFAIK it still lacks support > for exslt:node-set (see > <http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/rfc2629xslt/rfc2629xslt.html#safari>). > > 2008-06: exslt:node-set is there (as of Safari 3.1 I think). > > > Julian > > (*) of course that problem could also be solved by Mozilla/Opera/Safari > implementing msxsl:node-set().
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