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Re: 'Temp Object' handling WAS Re: [Virtools] deleting copied objects

Excellent feedback. The comments may not seem like much to the seasoned
Virtools user, but, for me, your comments addressed exactly the problem.
Thanks for the help, I cannot believe I missed that pOut...

Long live Virtools!

hdc

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Callele" <callele@cs.usask.ca>
To: "H.D. Case" <casemon@hotmail.com>; "Virtools-User-Group (E-mail)"
<virtools-user-group@lists.theswapmeet.com>
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 09:33 PM
Subject: Re: 'Temp Object' handling WAS Re: [Virtools] deleting copied
objects


> A few comments:
> 1) Replace the 12 Curve Follow BBs with a Parameter Selector that feeds
the
> curve name into a single Curve Follow BB.
> 2) You don't appear to be using the Object pOut from Object Copy to keep
> track of your temp object ID - is this the source of your issue?
> 3) Does the object need to be visible?  If not, you would do better to use
a
> 3D Frame and a different particle system.
> 4) Not sure what you are getting at with Rotate, Position on Curve,
> Interpolator - all are in parallel and I suspect that they should be in
> series... you should be careful when developing parallel paths within a
> single script because the processing order may differ from what you expect
> (see Chapter 23, Page 102 for details).
> 5) WRT deleting the temporary objects, is there a reason that you do not
use
> "Object Delete"?  If necessary, you can store the pOut of the Object Copy
in
> a shortcut or attribute until it is needed (although I can't see why you
> would need to) and then feed it into Object Delete when you need it.
>
> Well, hope this helps :-)
>
> David Callele
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "H.D. Case" <casemon@hotmail.com>
> To: "David Callele" <d.callele@home.com>; "Virtools-User-Group (E-mail)"
> <virtools-user-group@lists.theswapmeet.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 11:40 AM
> Subject: 'Temp Object' handling WAS Re: [Virtools] deleting copied objects
>
>
> > I guess what we're talking about is Temp Objects for a scene, objects
that
> > serve to pass along variables during their lifespan then are discarded.
> Ok,
> > attached is a JPG of the behavior graph I've created utilizing the
current
> > method. The image (hopefully) serves to show how i'm attempting the
'spawn
> > temp object / discard' behavior currently, as well as how laughable my
> > Virtools scripting ability is. =) The links don't really show up well as
> > there are many, so i added comments to take you through it.
> >
> > An example of a game that would benefit from 'temp object' handling
might
> be
> > Tetris, where the spawn of each piece (assuming a random spawn function)
> is
> > not undetermined until runtime, thus the total number of required pieces
> of
> > a single piece type is unknown.
> >
> > thank you for all the help, i hope these are not TOO basic of issues. i
> > study the help and associated documentations and i'm picking this up
> pretty
> > quickly but some things don't resolve in my mind just yet.
> >
> > hdc
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Callele" <d.callele@home.com>
> > To: "H.D. Case" <casemon@hotmail.com>; "Virtools-User-Group (E-mail)"
> > <virtools-user-group@lists.theswapmeet.com>
> > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 03:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Virtools] deleting copied objects
> >
> >
> > > A jpg might help but, if I understand correctly, might I suggest
adding
> > the
> > > objects to a Group as they are created then using a Group Iterator to
> find
> > > them later for the removal process.  And, it works for a Group with
only
> a
> > > single object.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps,
> > >
> > > David Callele
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "H.D. Case" <casemon@hotmail.com>
> > > To: "David Callele" <d.callele@home.com>; "Virtools-User-Group
(E-mail)"
> > > <virtools-user-group@lists.theswapmeet.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 3:25 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Virtools] deleting copied objects
> > >
> > >
> > > > the names are indeed unique, but that is part of the "problem". to
> > delete
> > > > the copied object, i must specify the name (linking in Object Delete
> BB
> > > > after copying isn't possible as it doesn't function without the
> specific
> > > > name of the object to delete) and the name is never the same. the
> Object
> > > > Copy BB doesn't appear to have the new unique name as an output
> > parameter
> > > to
> > > > link to the Delete Object BB.
> > > >
> > > > given that it is a unique name, i seemingly have no way to specify
(as
> > the
> > > > name will change as the process loops) which object to delete.
> > > >
> > > > one 'work-around' is to create the total number of objects as i need
> and
> > > > just go from there, but there are currently 96 possible permutations
> and
> > i
> > > > wish to keep the file size slim as web is a target platform.
> > > >
> > > > does my description of the problem make any sense? if not, i'll
> include
> > a
> > > > .jpg of the script.
> > > >
> > > > hdc
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "David Callele" <d.callele@home.com>
> > > > To: "H.D. Case" <casemon@hotmail.com>; "Virtools-User-Group
(E-mail)"
> > > > <virtools-user-group@lists.theswapmeet.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 01:22 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Virtools] deleting copied objects
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I believe that the names are unique... at least they alwyas have
> been
> > > when
> > > > I
> > > > > used these BBs.
> > > > >
> > > > > David Callele
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "H.D. Case" <casemon@hotmail.com>
> > > > > To: "Virtools-User-Group (E-mail)"
> > > > > <virtools-user-group@lists.theswapmeet.com>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:37 PM
> > > > > Subject: [Virtools] deleting copied objects
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm using Object Copy BB to copy an object then I have it follow
a
> > > > Curve.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > wish to delete the copied object when it reaches the end of the
> > curve.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is basically a loop. I can then re-use the schematic on
> several
> > > > > curves
> > > > > > using only one version of the Object.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is there a way to delete the copied object automagically at the
> end
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > > loop (on Curve Follow - Out) without knowing it's name? As
> Virtools
> > > does
> > > > > the
> > > > > > naming when the object is copied, the name will change depending
> on
> > > the
> > > > > > number of Curves that have Copied Objects on them. Or should I
use
> > > > Object
> > > > > > Rename and have each curve be hardcoded? Do either, ObjectCopy
or
> > > Object
> > > > > > Rename, ensure only unique names are made?
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