Re: [jats-list] Using JATS DTDs with Oxygen XML Editor

["Michael Boudreau mboudreau@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks, everyone, for the weekend homework! p	

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From: "Wendell Piez wapiez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
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Date: Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 4:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [jats-list] Using JATS DTDs with Oxygen XML Editor

Hi again,

Just to concur with Tommie (and thank her for pointing it out), while it
entails a learning curve that may seem to stand in the way, using the layering
mechanism as designed to deploy DTD enhancements and modifications absolutely
will save work, compared to alternatives -- and is no harder to document and
retrace when you have to do it again.

In this case you could have two separate frameworks but they would not compete
- the JATS-based format (and hence framework) would no longer have to claim to
be JATS, without quite fulfilling that promise.

Cheers, Wendell

On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 5:04 PM B Tommie Usdin
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errytech.com>> wrote:
Hi Michael --

An observation in response to your note. It is safer to create customizations
of the JATS models by using the over-ride mechanism instead of editing any of
the JATS files. And, after you figure out how it works, faster than editing
the JATS files.

Please read about how to do this at:
    https://jats.nlm.nih.gov/publishing/tag-library/1.2/chapter/implementor.h
tml<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/jats.nlm.nih.gov/publishing/tag-librar
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mjUY8C3CgRE0CjLrEbMiWG5-EKo0kK-ZRWqG7oAcb$>
and specifically the section at:
    https://jats.nlm.nih.gov/publishing/tag-library/1.2/chapter/imple-howtodt
ds.html<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/jats.nlm.nih.gov/publishing/tag-li
brary/1.2/chapter/imple-howtodtds.html__;!!BpyFHLRN4TMTrA!ueKI7lBF1HD0N4p5ARn
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By using your own over-ride files you reduce the chances of your work being
stepped on accidentally and make moving your customization to new versions of
JATS much easier.

Also, as you are customizing JATS, you might find some of the information in
the JATS Compatibility Model useful. See:
   https://groups.niso.org/apps/group_public/download.php/16764/JATS-Compatib
ility-Model-v0-7.pdf<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/groups.niso.org/apps/
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-- Tommie


> On Mar 4, 2021, at 4:43 PM, Michael Boudreau
mboudreau@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:mboudreau@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
<jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxx
errytech.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi, Julie,
>
> Thanks for the forum linkbI was actually hoping that merging all the files
for the blue and green DTDS into a single folder (teal?) would work, but then
I realized that our slightly customized version of the blue DTD was made with
changes to some of the files they have in common. Nevertheless, thatbs an
idea I need to file away if I never need to convert between unmodified
versions of both DTDs.
>
> --
> Michael R. Boudreau
> Electronic Publishing Technology Manager
> The University of Chicago Press
> 1427 E. 60th Street
> Chicago, IL 60637
> www.journals.uchicago.edu<http://www.journals.uchicago.edu>
>
>
> From: "Julie Blair julie.blair@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:julie.blair@xxxxxxxxxxx>"
<jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxx
errytech.com>>
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> Date: Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 11:22 AM
> To:
"jats-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jats-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>"
<jats-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jats-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> Subject: Re: [jats-list] Using JATS DTDs with Oxygen XML Editor
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> I had this issue, albeit several years and versions ago but merging the 2
DTDs into 1 worked. Check this thread for further info:
>
https://www.oxygenxml.com/forum/topic13010.html<https://urldefense.com/v3/__h
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N4p5ARneA3aZLz4mjUY8C3CgRE0CjLrEbMiWG5-EKo0kK-ZRWtCNSXIp$>
>
> Best,
> Julie Blair
> SAGE Publications
>
>>
>> Is anyone using Oxygen XML Editor to work with instances of the various
JATS DTDs (e.g., blue and green)?
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