Re: Formatting Objects considered harmful

Subject: Re: Formatting Objects considered harmful
From: "Simon St.Laurent" <simonstl@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:52:00 -0400
At 03:43 PM 4/28/99 +0100, you wrote:
>I appreciate that your documents are of a simple form, and are in fact
>documents. So the simple solution is as you point out is don't transform.
>
>You must however be aware that rendering from simple documents is the
>smallest portion of the challenges that face the Web designer and
>developer, whether constructing the framework for a large website or web
>app, or aggregating data for delivery as a document.

I made no argument that XSL is unnecessary; I made the argument that the
tools CSS provides don't offer any temptations - your semantic firewall -
that are built into even a simple implementation of XSL.

>It has been said many times in the past, that XSL is not seeking to replace
>CSS (or indeed XHTML), but is being designed to meet the needs of problem
>domains for which XHTML+CSS are not up to the task for. These domains are
>not just specialist printing requirements, but any large complex and
>interactive Web presentation.

That wasn't my argument.

>In short, nobody is forcing you to use XSL, you already have XML+CSS. And
>correspondingly, please don't try and insist that XML+CSS are enough for my
>needs :)

If you'd actually read the entire message, you might have noticed that that
wasn't what I was saying.

Simon St.Laurent
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