Subject: [xsl] Re: What is the future of XSL-FO From: Célio Cidral Junior <ccidral@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:53:04 -0300 |
Indeed, it is outdated, and thus not valid because now XSL-FO makes part of XSL recommendation since 2001. Because I'm a newbie with it, the quote I read at MSDN led me to question about its world-wide use and acceptation by developers; when talking about MS, we must take care from being badly influenced. Anyway, I became wondered with XSL-FO, it is great and I am working hard to start using it for many purposes. About the overlap with CSS, I think that the purpose of HTML/CSS has nothing to do with XSL-FO rec's purpose. HTML/CSS is to publish content over the web using browsers, and browsers do not take care of document features like pagination, headers, footers, an so on. So I suppose that worrying about to resolve the overlap makes no sense. (that's what I think, please clear my thoughts if I'm in the wrong way). That few number of vendors/implementations is an issue, I think so. This makes me stay in use with the current tools (like Crystal Reports) I use to generate reports. Particularly, I dislike that tool, and, in addition, it always broughts many problems to me. That's why I started an effort to replace this tool by something better (XSL-FO, actually). I'm just having problems with finding an open source library for .NET. I tried NFOP, which is the .NET port of Apache FOP, but it did not work in my tests; I'm still sweating to make it work. Thank you for the attention. Regards, Celio Cidral Junior Brazil ----- Original Message ----- From: <David.Pawson@xxxxxxxxxxx> Newsgroups: gmane.text.xml.xsl.general.mulberrytech Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 8:28 AM Subject: RE: What is the future of XSL-FO -----Original Message----- From: Célio Cidral Junior Below is an excerpt of an explanation for XSLT, took out from http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/e n-us/xmlsdk/htm/xslt_starter_54dw.asp: "XSL is now generally referred to as XSL Formatting Objects (XSL-FO), to distinguish it from XSLT. The future of XSL-FO as a standard is uncertain, because much of its functionality overlaps with that provided by cascading style sheets (CSS) and the HTML tag set. If cross-vendor compatibility is important, you might want to avoid XSL-FO until it becomes a standard fully accepted by the Worldwide Web Consortium." Can I consider valid the declaration above? I'd certainly hope not. The quote isn't dated, and its facts are questionnable. The overlap with CSS is fact, trouble is, no one has implemented that overlap in CSS. Cross vendor compatibility is an issue, especially with so few implementations and a complex spec, but it is being resolved. The WG are currently looking at updating the rec, so I guess they don't think its dead. Perhaps they are just saying M$ haven't implemented it, so its questionnable? go ahead and try it, its fun. regards DaveP ** snip here ** - DISCLAIMER: NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any attachments is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient you should not use, disclose, distribute or copy any of the content of it or of any attachment; you are requested to notify the sender immediately of your receipt of the email and then to delete it and any attachments from your system. RNIB endeavours to ensure that emails and any attachments generated by its staff are free from viruses or other contaminants. However, it cannot accept any responsibility for any such which are transmitted. We therefore recommend you scan all attachments. Please note that the statements and views expressed in this email and any attachments are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of RNIB. RNIB Registered Charity Number: 226227 Website: http://www.rnib.org.uk XSL-List info and archive: http://www.mulberrytech.com/xsl/xsl-list XSL-List info and archive: http://www.mulberrytech.com/xsl/xsl-list
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