Subject: RE: [digital-copyright] RE: Amazon streaming video for classroom use? From: "Colson, Jeannie" <jcolson@xxxxxxx> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 15:01:10 +0000 |
I have a tangential question. I was under the impression that 110(1) and (2) provided the only exceptions to the right of public performance of motion pictures. I've been surprised to see references on this list to fair use evaluations regarding movies. Have I misunderstood? Can 107 be applied to movies? ~Jeannie -----Original Message----- From: John Mitchell [mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 6:44 PM To: Digital-Copyright Subject: Re: [digital-copyright] RE: Amazon streaming video for classroom use? Consistent with my post of a few hours ago, I can agree with the first sentence of your second paragraph, but not the rest. The Section 109 right is completely silent with respect to public performances. And, as I stated before, if one is authorized to perform the work publicly, that authorization is discrete, and is not dependent upon whether the work was on a rented copy of a remote streaming server. Although the Ninth Circuit seems to be tone deaf on the distinction, the fact that the access has "licensing" terms associated with it is not determinative. That is, I can rent a copy from the video store, and have no right to perform it publicly by virtue of the rental, but just as plainly, I can obtain a separate license to perform the work publicly (and then perform it from the rented video), or the video store may have obtained the authority to license me to perform it publicly (unlikely in practice, but easily done as a matter of law). I see several problems that would be raised if a video streaming service stated, "You have no 110 rights." If the streaming service is the copyright holder, I would consider that to be void as a matter of public policy, actionable as a matter of antitrust law, and place at risk the copyright, as a matter of copyright misuse. That is because, since the copyright itself is granted "subject to" Section 110, it would not be permissible for the copyright holder to circumvent the limitation on the copyright grant by licensing solely to those who agree to nullify the limitation. If the streaming service is acting independently, and not as an agent for the copyright holder, then the three faults would not apply. But I suspect that it would make no more business sense for the streaming service to say "You agree not to exercise your 110 rights" (or, more precisely, you agree not to perform the work in the manner authorized by Section 110) than it would be for the bookstore to say, "By purchasing this book, you agree never to exercise your right to sell it, lend it, or give it away." Breaching either agreement could not be a copyright violation, and the merchant placing those limitations upon the customer risks losing customers. I hope that if you read my earlier post, you will see that this does not boil down to just those two issues. John On Feb 19, 2013, at 4:33 PM, Peter B. Hirtle wrote: > "A Netflix or Amazon or ITunes rental is no different from a "motion picture" > rental paid for at a local video store." > > I disagree. The video store rental (or using a copy we have > purchased) is based on 109 rights. The streamed movie has license > terms associated with it. > It would be quite possible to have a license that says "You have no > 110 rights," and you would have to obey it. > > To the extent that the license is silent on what you can do under 110, > then Kevin is right: it would be a lawfully made copy. But if the > license forbids > 110-type performances, then you can't do it, no matter what the law > may say. > (And this is one of the great innovations in the proposed copyright > changes in > the UK: namely, users cannot sign away their rights under copyright > when they > sign a license.) > > The discussion seems to boil down to two issues: > 1. Is classroom use a private, non-commercial performance authorized > under the > licenses? > 2. If not, should we ignore the license terms because Amazon/Netflix > is unlikely to sue us for violating their terms of use and the movie > studios, who > are the most likely to take umbrage, have bigger fish to fry? (And > BTW, I don't think Netflix or Amazon could grant us permission to use > this stuff in > their licenses even if they wanted to. I assume that their licenses > with the > studios stipulate that they can only license content for private, > in-home viewing. That is why people like Swank are selling > separately-negotiated streaming services to universities.) > > Peter Hirtle
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