Subject: [stella] Poll: Developer Wishlist From: Schwerin <schwerin@xxxxxxxx> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 01:58:47 -0500 |
Note to self: bringing up the issue of Java is not the best way to stay out of religious wars. Argggh x 3. From: Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux <veilleux@xxxxxxxxx> >My "in-house" apps are all 100% ANSI C, and I've never had any problems >porting them on different platforms. There's a myth about java portability. >Java is portable only if the standard is followed 100% on every platform, >which is really not the case. Maybe you and/or someone else would be willing to help me port ANSI C code to different platforms? There seems to be a consensus that C is good. Now is everyone here focused on text-based tools (rather than GUI). If GUI, how would you deal with cross platform issues? >industry down. Real coders should know assembly. Making a tool as fast as >possible only makes me happier, even though nobody's gonna notice if I made a >slow one, I'm still sure that *MY* programs will work on ye 'ol 16mhz 386. I agree. If you're a fast assembly coder more power to you. I found C/C++ more productive than the assembly environment I had been in. I could write and debug faster, trust my code a little more, and even optimize with assembly routines when needed. >On my P233, the Netscape VM is far worst than a 6507 at 3.58/3mhz ;) Try using sun's VM on text based java applications outside of netscape (text based is one kind of application we're talking about, right?) From: Lord Spambraticus of Borg <lord-of-hell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >I've had more success doing cross-platform work with C Ok, I *hear* you. >I stop ya right here. Some of us (hopefully more than 1 or 2) can whip up >complex tools in assembler as quickly as BASIC or some yah-yah "high level >language"... There is *NO* reason why the littlest things we do shouldn't be >done with care and attention to details and the user experience. Look around Well more power to you. I hope to join that league some day. Also, seeing as this is a pretty technical audience there's no reason to produce an inferior tool. However, how many inferior tools are still being used because a better one is yet to be written.... >who uses 68020 machines anymore? I actually use a 68040 and I'm very glad to hear of this port...I'll look for it. Is there a 68K emulator? I get the impression no from the horsepower needed. Guess I will run that on the PC. Here's one model for developing more developer tools as a group: 1) Identify the primary platforms involved 2) Identify the biggest needs (application) 3) write new code, and convert existing code(*) to C (for example) 4) people can volunteer ports (and/or assembly tweaking) for platforms. (*) if you want to incorporate existing tools into a new project Andrew Schwerin schwerin@xxxxxxxx (Well informed in such matters, I am forced to call anyone who further lectures me on Attention to Detail and the Decaying Programmer Ethic a "Prattling Preening Predaceous Privy Pretentious Preppy Prissy Presumptive Perfectionist Programmer with a Prickled Pear up his Proboscis". You have been warned). -- Archives (includes files) at http://www.biglist.com/lists/stella/archives/ Unsub & more at http://www.biglist.com/lists/stella/
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