Subject: Re: [stella] Banned games From: "Eckhard Stolberg" <Eckhard_Stolberg@xxxxxx> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 14:26:10 +0200 |
from Thomas Jentzsch: > I think they banned Wolfenstein for two reasons: excessive violence (like Doom) and nazi-symbols, which are not allowed to be displayed anywhere here in Germany (except in arts and for educational reasons). > > There was then/is now no general aproach against exposing war themes to kids, as long as it's not "abused" just as background for extreme violence. And I'm quite sure, german kids learned much more about WWII than the average grown ups of all other involved countries. > Actually I think there was a problem with war themed games in the beginning. One of the reasons for having something banned is gloryfying war. This is a reaction to the time when the nazis where brainwashing children with ideas about dieing a hero's death for the fuehrer, and then sending them as cannon fodder into useless battles towards the end of WW2. The early guidelines of the BPjS saw this rule violated when you could just 'play war'. I think this is how games like River Raid and Battle Zone got on the list. But then there was the Microprose case, who sued to have Silent Service and F15 removed from the list. They could prove that they were giving proper historical background in the manuals and that they therefore weren't 'gloryfying war'. Since then the guidelines of the BPjS have changed a bit, but neither Activision nor Atari cared to have their games removed from the list as well. from Manuel Polik: > Ariolasoft was the german distributer of Activision titles. > At least for C64 titles, I'm not sure about VCS Carts. > But the banning includes all ports anyway... Ariola also distributed Activision's early VCS games in Germany. I'm not sure if they were already called Ariolasoft at that time though. And I think the ban only affects one specific version. If you release the game on a different system, or rerelease it with some small changes on the same system, the game has to be reviewed again before this version can be banned too. However the bureaucratic hurdles for banning a game that is (almost) identical to a game that is alreaddy banned are much lower. This is why the PC emulator packs from Activision and Atari with River Raid and Battlezone on them can be sold here without a problem, since the standard for banning games has shifted a bit since the early 80s, while the Atari Party Pack still got banned pretty quickly, because Smash TV is still considered too violent. Ciao, Eckhard Stolberg - Archives (includes files) at http://www.biglist.com/lists/stella/archives/ Unsub & more at http://www.biglist.com/lists/stella/
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