Subject: Re: [stella] Banned games From: Manuel Polik <cybergoth@xxxxxxxx> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 02:26:54 +0200 |
Hi Eckhard! > The early guidelines of the BPjS saw this rule violated when > you could just 'play war'. I think this is how games like > River Raid and Battle Zone got on the list. But then there > was the Microprose case, who sued to have Silent Service and > F15 removed from the list. They could prove that they were giving > proper historical background in the manuals and that they therefore > weren't 'gloryfying war'. Since then the guidelines of the BPjS > have changed a bit, but neither Activision nor Atari cared to > have their games removed from the list as well. BTW: The reason that 'Panzer General' is banned and 'Allied General' not, is that in 'Panzer General' you can win WW2 for the german side and in 'Allied General' not... BTW²: They banned the 'Platoon' game for 'gloryfying war', too :-) > from Manuel Polik: > > Ariolasoft was the german distributer of Activision titles. > > At least for C64 titles, I'm not sure about VCS Carts. > > But the banning includes all ports anyway... > And I think the ban only affects one specific version. If > you release the game on a different system, or rerelease it > with some small changes on the same system, the game has to > be reviewed again before this version can be banned too. > However the bureaucratic hurdles for banning a game that is > (almost) identical to a game that is alreaddy banned are much > lower. Here I'm not sure. I even thought that the ban automatically includes not only all versions, but sequels, add ons & data disks (official or not) as well. At least such a policy was in discussion some 2-3 years ago. That'd mean for example that Doom 3 already is banned even before it is released and that ID would actually have to start a lawsuit to get it possibly removed from the list. > This is why the PC emulator packs from Activision and Atari > with River Raid and Battlezone on them can be sold here without > a problem, since the standard for banning games has shifted a > bit since the early 80s, while the Atari Party Pack still got > banned pretty quickly, because Smash TV is still considered too > violent. Here I'd assume the Activision & Atari packs had just luck that no one noticed that River Raid & Battlezone were on. If someone had noticed it, these packs had been banned as well, no way. You know what they say about the bureaucrats in germany, or? :-) Greetings, Manuel - Archives (includes files) at http://www.biglist.com/lists/stella/archives/ Unsub & more at http://www.biglist.com/lists/stella/
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