Subject: RE: [stella] Generic kernal or just build a game? From: KirkIsrael@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: 15 Mar 2004 04:23:52 -0000 |
> After reading the Stella programmer's guide, your 2600 101, and many other > docs, I suddenly had *that much more* respect for Activision in particular, > and what it'd done for gaming. Their games had a way of making the 2600 > seem a trivial thing to program. Little did I know (or really care) about > the genius behind them. But isn't that what game programming is about? Yeah. For some reason "Keystone Kapers" is sticking in my head. Where the heck did they find time for all of that? > > When I get some freetime, I'm really going to dive into old Atari > > ROMS, try to see what tricks I know and what ones still make me go > > "how the hell did they do THAT"... > > Which disassembler do you use for this? Please tell me there's a magic one > that names labels and comments code... > > mainGameLoop bit plyrStat ; Appears to check if player health is > gone > bpl killPlyr ; Yep, I was right > php > jsr dynAssem ; Huzzah! This old trick again! Heh, yeah, right. You can learn (or guess) a lot before resorting to an assembler, in order of increasing depth: 1. load the ROM and just play it with an eye towards # of player, missiles, etc 2. use PCAEwin to record an AVI, inspect frame by frame 3. Use PCAEwin's debugger to read TIA values (this is how I extracted Pterry's squawk) 4. Look for a commented dissembly 5. use Distella and look yourself... >From your other post: > XXXXXXXX > X . > X X XXXXXX > XXXXXXXX > XXXXXXXX X > X > XXXXXXXX > so, the |_ and _| are paddles? Do they trace a square or a circle around the center blocks? You might wanna glance at Radial Pong http://atariage.com/development_page.html?InDevelopmentID=41 Haven't heard about that for a long time. Those old 80s mag probably had some great ideas for 2600 games. There was this one Compute's Gazette with a neat heat seeking missile game, there was a row of like 8 on the ground that would launch one at a time....control was kind of like 2600 Combat biplanes, but faster, and the goal was to get the missile following you to crash into the ground (hopefully taking another missile with it) But older magazine games...they often weren't as elaborate as professional games, so might be better ports to our fav system that generally isn't as powerful as those 8-bit juggernauts :-) ('Course I tend to lack ambition anyway when it comes to game scope--I'm no Thomas! :-) -- KirkIsrael@xxxxxxxxxxxxx http://kisrael.com "Stupid people see beauty only in beautiful things." --Oliviero Toscani quoting Dadaist Saying ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Archives (includes files) at http://www.biglist.com/lists/stella/archives/ Unsub & more at http://www.biglist.com/lists/stella/
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