Subject: Re: [stella] stella charter From: Doug Dingus <opengeek@xxxxxxxxx> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 00:18:16 -0400 |
> > You know what happens when 2600 programming takes > > place in a vacuum? It gets stale, just like anything else does. New blood means new ideas. > > But there's "elite", in a positive sense of urging people to a high > standard, which I think is fair for [stella] to aim for...it's not the > same as "exclusionary"...it's open to all, it's patient with > newcomers. > > I think for [stella] to maintain its focus on "traditional" assembly > programming rather than embracing a new still emerging and developing > high level language is reasonable. As do I. So as a newcomer, currently working in a mix of bb and assembler, let me post a few impressions here for the elders consideration, while at the same time assuming I have no say really: 1. How do you folks want to receive folks like me? On the AA forum, one jumps in and it's all good. Here it seems a bit more difficult to do that. I've read you all long enough to know you are nice enough folks, but I have to admit I never posted because the standards seem high. Long ago, I jumped in a few times when the venue was USENET. That was easy enough, I added my part to the discussion then lurked when my part was done. When the list formed, I think that went unchanged. Today it's different somehow, IMHO. I'm not sure just what the expectations are for this venue and would appreciate some clarification on that score. 2. Long ago, I liked the original vision and stayed tuned because I value what I see. Looking back from then to today, it's somewhat stale. New things are happening, which is amazing given the machine, but it's stale all the same. It's safe to say the art of making a great cart has been well refined. Honestly, where is the push for the future going to come? Lots of Superchargers going largely unused. What about 7800 programming? I see tons of talent here, squeezing every last drop out of the 2600. That's all good and should continue. I think this speaks to #1. Encouraging a larger crowd might bring more into the fold, doing more interesting things. --Some of these things might evolve into new directions, ideas, games, etc... 3. I could care less about the list venue and that line of discussion is simply a distraction to me. Pick one and commit. Like I posted earlier, I hopped onto the bb bandwagon because I like the feel of the classic games. With it, I can actually get one done. With a mix of bb and assembler, I can likely get a really good one done. Which leads me to.... 4. Is this list about games on the 2600, or about the art of programming in the tightest environment? I love the latter, because the knowledge enables some great game experiences and because it's all about working with the hardware. Honestly, I see the continued focus on the minimal environment getting in the way of some great games using supercharger, ram carts, 7800, etc.... Eventually, that's the way I want to go because the games possible there will represent the very best Atari experience for me. Again, observations and thoughts from just one newcomer interested in classic gaming on hardware I love. Take it, leave it, hate it, love it, but let me know what this venue is about so I can contribute accordingly when it makes best sense to do so. Archives (includes files) at http://www.biglist.com/lists/stella/archives/ Unsub & more at http://stella.biglist.com
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