Re: (open)jade bug rendering LaTeX inside CDATA

["Lassi A. Tuura" <lat@xxxxxx>]

> looking at the source, has anyone tried adding "-" to this case
> statement in Jade?

Yes -- long time ago...  I take the patch still hasn't made it into
openjade :-(  Well, hope this helps someone.  Here's a bit of the
discussion thread.  Cheers, //lat
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Subject: Re: displaying dashes
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 12:00:17 +0100
From: "Lassi A. Tuura" <lat@xxxxxx>
To: dssslist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

> Got a problem with double-dashes in DocBook:

Here's another patch to jade from about a year ago.  Hope someone
integrates either this or Brandon's patch into openjade one day...

Cheers,
//lat
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Subject: Re: DAVENPORT: sgml2latex for docbook?
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:22:03 +0200
From: "Lassi A. Tuura" <lassi.tuura@xxxxxxx>
To: dssslist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
CC: 45489@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Joerg.Wittenberger@xxxxxxxxx, ajk@xxxxxxxxxx,
    Sebastian Rahtz <sebastian.rahtz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

>> Interesting.  The original example was about -- in the <screen>
>> environment.  I'm still not quite sure whether hacking on this should
>> take place in the jadetex.dtx file or what...
> 
> better hack it in Jade's TeXFOTBuilder.cxx, to be honest,
> in "TeXFOTBuilder::characters". My memory is declining with old age
> --- didn't someone make this patch last year? I don't have a current
> Jade source on this box

I sent a patch last October to do exactly that, maybe that's what you
remembereed.  My patch disables many ligatures in TexFOTBuilder
(including `--' and `<<'), leaving usually-wanted ligatures (like fi)
enabled.  I've attached my mail exchanges with Sebastian and James from
those days.  AFAIK, the patches never made it to jade or openjade.  It
would be nice if they did.

FWIW, I've run with this patch ever since and have been happy with it. 
As somebody else said, just make sure your fixed-width fonts don't have
the other normal ligatures (fi, ffi, ...) defined, and this patch will
take care of the conveninence ligature hacks.  Why anybody ever came up
with the idea to handle and remap these things as deep inside TeX as in
font ligatures I have no idea :-)

Cheers and hope this helps,
//lat
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Subject: Yet another solution for avoiding ligatures
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:23:03 +0200 (CET)
From: "Lassi A. Tuura" <lat@xxxxxx>
To: Sebastian Rahtz <s.rahtz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Hi,

OK, I came up with yet another solution to the ligature problem.  Could
you let me know if it works?

The solution consists of:
 - this code in `void TeXFOTBuilder::characters(const Char *s, size_t n)':
      case '-':
      case '<':
      case '>':
        os() << "\\NoLigCharacter{" << int(*s) << "}";
        break;

 - this addition to jadetex.ltx:
     \def\NoLigCharacter#1{\char#1{}\ifnum\Mathcount>1\relax\else\mbox{}\fi}

That is, it adds `\mbox{}' after the character to avoid ligature
composites -- but only if we are not in a math flow object (I think :-).

If you approve this change, I'll send a patch to James. 

Cheers,
//lat
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Subject: Re: Yet another solution for avoiding ligatures
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:14:35 +0100 ( 
`)
From: Sebastian Rahtz <s.rahtz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: lat@xxxxxx
CC: jjc@xxxxxxxxxx

Lassi A. Tuura writes:
 > OK, I came up with yet another solution to the ligature problem.  Could
 > you let me know if it works?
 > 
my tests indicate that the solution is workable.

 >  - this code in `void TeXFOTBuilder::characters(const Char *s, size_t n)':
 >       case '-':
 >       case '<':
 >       case '>':
 >         os() << "\\NoLigCharacter{" << int(*s) << "}";
 >         break;

\NoLigCharacter is rather long. Just \\NoLig will do. and
easier to do

         os() << "\\NoLig{" << char(*s) << "}";

and
 >  - this addition to jadetex.ltx:
 >      \def\NoLigCharacter#1{\char#1{}\ifnum\Mathcount>1\relax\else\mbox{}\fi}
 > 
\def\NoLig#1{#1\ifmmode\else{}\fi}


James, I cannot see any reason not to go with this. Lassi has a
genuine point, that ligatures like "--" should be disabled in JadeTeX,
and this is an inelegant, but working answer.

However, David Carlisle and I want to make some more changes to
TeXFOTBuilder in the moderately short term, for processing MathML; so
unless you need to re-release Jade anyway, I suggest we keep this on
hold for a bit, and let Lassi use his locally patched version 

sebastian


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