Re: [jats-list] BITS: Is there a canonical way to group multiple appendices and a glossary under a single 'Appendix' heading?

Subject: Re: [jats-list] BITS: Is there a canonical way to group multiple appendices and a glossary under a single 'Appendix' heading?
From: Wendell Piez <wapiez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 18:33:18 -0400
Debbie,

Ah! Thanks for the correction: I had indeed not kept in mind that app,
index and glossary could only be in back, but not in the body of a
book-part (which happens to indicate back matter).

On the other hand ... I'm not sure I agree that this is as graceful as
all that. (Now I'm with Gerrit. It does seem a bit like the tail
wagging the dog. If any book-part can have back matter, then the back
matter inside any one of them is its own, not the back matter in some
larger undefined scope.) My own compromise might be to render the
appendix and glossary as generic 'sec' (with @sec-type) so they could
be in the body of the book-part.

Oh dear ... I am already on record as saying that when we get to
books, we need more generic structures (and thus to rely on ad-hoc
semantics more) to accommodate the way books are so often sui generis
by design. This is a nice example of why I think so. :-)

Cheers, Wendell
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On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Debbie Lapeyre
<dalapeyre@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Wendell--
>
> I too, think Gerrit's "clumsy" model looks
> quite acceptable.
>
> What you say SEEMS logical, that the content of
> a book part should be in its body, but, in fact,
> the elements <app>, <index>, and <glossary>
> can only occur within back matter.
>
> The <book-part> model goes like this:
>
> book-part
>   book-part-meta?
>   front-matter?
>   body?
>     (para-level-stuff including table and figure and
>         stuff like that but NOT including index or
>         glossary or app)*
>     sec*
>     (book-part | xi:include)*
>   back?
>      label?
>      title*,
>      (ack | app | app-group | bio | dedication |
>       floats-group | fn-group | glossary | index |
>       index-group | notes | ref-list | sec |
>       sig-block | toc | toc-group)+
>
> So the <book-part> model as given by Gerrit makes
> perfect sense. If Gerrit had not wanted the "Appendix"
> book part to be at the same hierarchical level as the
> Index, the <title> element of the <back> could have
> been used.
>
> It seems to me that this is the JATS model accommodating
> some fairly unusual structures indeed, and doing it
> acceptably. Gerrit does not have to rearrange his content, or
> call any component something it is not. The thing with an
> 'Appendix' title is a book part, and has inside it what
> he said it does. That is JATS being flexible, not abusive.
>
>
> --Debbie
>
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